lol just shot the gun and see how helpless there are, since they lack an hmg to track you…
and again why comparing a medium tank to a heavy tank?
of course it does - the wiesel / Luchs is 7.3 and cant kill any heavys at all
three of these are heavy turretless TDs.
Nope. You’re asking to be invulnerable in downtiers. Not going to happen bud.
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yet again, the panther, tiger, US 90mm, and nearly every other gun used at 6.0+ can pen the driver hatch of the is3. Its a weak spot that cannot be hidden due to its proximity to the main gun. The IS3 is FAR from invulnerable and would not be even if it sat at 7.0.
Extremely small, hard to hit weakspot. Does not change anything.
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Seriously, what do you expect from a heavy tank in a full downteir? To have gaping wide vulnerabilities? What is the point of armor if you aren’t able to make even FULL DOWNTEIRS have to aim?
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There are many, many vehicles at 6.7 and even higher that can only penetrate the IS-3 in this small ass weakspot.
You mean the tanks with FAR more mobility, actual gun depression, <8s reloads? Yeah, again, this is what a heavy tank is. How many of those vehicles pen a T32 frontally anywhere? Again, you are facing a tank with a 20+s reload, poor velocity, and one of the largest muzzle breaks in WT. If you can’t pen the driver hatch, shoot for the muzzle break and hes 50+s repairing. Or hell, you missed the gun and hit the lower mantlet… which deflects into the driver hatch. The weak point is that whole area. It is SO EASY to punish even the best IS3 players. There are so many deficiencies with the tank that add to a tank that is nearly never played at the moment because its just bad. I see about 3x the T44-100s as i do IS3s and for good reason.
No, I mean like literally any tank not using HEAT or very high caliber guns will require that weakspot. I’m sure you can use your noggin to imagine the giant dozens of vehicles that fall under this category.
… again, what do you think the point of armor is. What do you think the counter for a jumbo is at 4.3? shoot the MG port. What do you think the counter for a T95 is at 6.0? shoot the commander hatch. What do you think the counter for a tortoise is at 5.7? Shoot the MG port. Nearly every tank we have in this game that is considered armored has a weak point that is pennable 1.0 under itself while having almost no other area that is. We have dozens of examples. Why is the IS3 the one you care about?
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IS-3 deserve 7.3
just like T32
and yk what else has better armor than Maus(against conventional round)? T32E1
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The other examples given have massive downsides the IS-3 lacks, and again, there are tanks below, at the same BR and ABOVE the IS-3 that STILL cannot penetrate anywhere frontally but the driver port. This is not some huge massive weakspot and it’s also not the same thing as being impenetrable ONLY to vehicles FAR lower in BR than you.
You have yet to provide a reason. The T32 doesn’t have a frontal weak point like the IS3. It has 50% more turret armor. It has 10 degrees gun depression. Its a FAR better tank. Again, lots of experience here.
Yup, the T32E1 has better armor than the maus. But LITERALLY no one calls it OP. Wana guess why? Because by 7.7 nearly everyone still pens that armor. And it doesn’t have the maus’s 6 crew durability.
@Normandy_Corsair What do you think the standout quality of the IS3 is? The gun is bad. It sits on the IS2 1944 that is nearly an unplayed tank due to how awful it is. It has no speed, it has no depression, it has awful crew placement. All it has is that frontal armor that can’t even be angled due to the nature of piked armor. It has a weak point that can’t be hidden and the tank can’t hull down without presenting it. The IS3 also is sitting on massive downsides. thats the point. Its a bad tank… except for armor. And that armor is pretty meaningless at 7.3.
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Yep, the IS-3 is not a good design. Your fault comes from wanting it to be GOOD and be FORCEFULLY good in the meta instead of mid (what it is now) and to do this you will undertier it so it faces vehicles that have no recourse when facing it beyond the tiny weakspot + track and barreling it.
It’s also not immobile for a heavy… at all… being on the upper 50% range of mobility for heavy tanks, not on the bottom.
‘no recourse except to shoot the weak point’. Do you even read what you type? Its just amazing.
say hello, to, mr machine gun port and mr lower frontplate and mr cupola
does “nearly everyone pen” the IS-3 at 7.3, im think NOT
Is there any specific reason you feel the need to be rude and insult me when I haven’t done so to you?
Also… as I’ve said before a few times…
Emphasis:
MG port is 240mm on the outer ring, 260mm on the inner ring.
LFP center is ~300mm, sides are 170mm but this is a tank with 10 degrees depression and lfp is easy to hide.
Cupola is 270mm
Most of you ‘weak points’ are more armor than the is3 mantlet. What type of argument is that?
IS3 mantlet is 220mm. Everything at 7.3 has 220mm pen or more except autocannons and arty vehicles. And arty eat the is3 with that driver port.
@Normandy_Corsair are you seriously trying to say you think that shooting a weak point is somehow something that is foreign to gamers? The ‘small ass weak point’ is larger than the MG port on any tank. It isn’t just the driver hatch, its the entire plate thats weak. Its as wide as the mantlet. And its in-line with the shot trap mantlet or barrel if you aim high.
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