The IS3 needs to move from 7.3 to 7.0

“Oh, look at that appeal, a tank piercing 148mm in 6.7 can only destroy my heavy tank in a very specific point of my tank. Why couldn’t I also play against an IS3 having the same small chance of piercing it using my Tiger 1 and Panther? Oh no, only my nation can have the most armored against tanks that have almost no chance of destroying them from the front” Even though a Tiger 1 and Panther have more chances of penetrating an IS3 from the front than a T44 has chances of destroying a Tiger 2H from the front.

OMG repeating the same over and over again.
I play usually 4 nations !!!

Ideal only for russian fanboys…

Ok Mr. “Jagd” I realize that Germany is not your favorite nation. But why don’t you address the point that I have been repeating for several texts? That an IS1, T34-85, T44 have less chance of penetrating a Tiger 2H, Jagdpanther, Jadgtiger, Ferdnand from the front, than a Tiger 1 or Panther or Lekpz have of penetrating an IS3 in its frontal armor? Playing with a Tiger 1 or Panther against an IS2 it is very easy to destroy this tank head-on, however even with the very high reload time and meme armor it still penetrates the vast majority of tanks in its BR (5.3, 5.7, 6.0, 6.3) head-on. However, the IS3 has the same cannon and falls against much more armored enemies. At this moment it can only penetrate tanks of 6.7 and above in some very specific points in the frontal armor of the tanks (we are talking about medium and heavy tanks) and its high reload time with average penetration no longer makes sense in this tier. If it took 25 seconds to penetrate at least 270mm it would be fair, however waiting 25 seconds to penetrate the same thing that most tanks do in less than 10 seconds no longer makes sense in this tier.

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this is the first bad take I’ve seen you have. The t-44 does not belong at 6.7, it literally cannot pen any of the 6.7 heavy’s, no being able to pen cupolas is not a good enough justification for it being there, the t-44-100 is fine at 7.0, the is-3 should also stay at 7.3, if they were to decompress the br’s then it would be nice for it to not see as many darts.

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That’s not what I said at all. Maybe re-read my post.

This is the 2nd ongoing thread for the exact same topic.

lol just shot the gun and see how helpless there are, since they lack an hmg to track you…
and again why comparing a medium tank to a heavy tank?

of course it does - the wiesel / Luchs is 7.3 and cant kill any heavys at all

three of these are heavy turretless TDs.

Nope. You’re asking to be invulnerable in downtiers. Not going to happen bud.

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yet again, the panther, tiger, US 90mm, and nearly every other gun used at 6.0+ can pen the driver hatch of the is3. Its a weak spot that cannot be hidden due to its proximity to the main gun. The IS3 is FAR from invulnerable and would not be even if it sat at 7.0.

Extremely small, hard to hit weakspot. Does not change anything.

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Seriously, what do you expect from a heavy tank in a full downteir? To have gaping wide vulnerabilities? What is the point of armor if you aren’t able to make even FULL DOWNTEIRS have to aim?

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There are many, many vehicles at 6.7 and even higher that can only penetrate the IS-3 in this small ass weakspot.

You mean the tanks with FAR more mobility, actual gun depression, <8s reloads? Yeah, again, this is what a heavy tank is. How many of those vehicles pen a T32 frontally anywhere? Again, you are facing a tank with a 20+s reload, poor velocity, and one of the largest muzzle breaks in WT. If you can’t pen the driver hatch, shoot for the muzzle break and hes 50+s repairing. Or hell, you missed the gun and hit the lower mantlet… which deflects into the driver hatch. The weak point is that whole area. It is SO EASY to punish even the best IS3 players. There are so many deficiencies with the tank that add to a tank that is nearly never played at the moment because its just bad. I see about 3x the T44-100s as i do IS3s and for good reason.

No, I mean like literally any tank not using HEAT or very high caliber guns will require that weakspot. I’m sure you can use your noggin to imagine the giant dozens of vehicles that fall under this category.

… again, what do you think the point of armor is. What do you think the counter for a jumbo is at 4.3? shoot the MG port. What do you think the counter for a T95 is at 6.0? shoot the commander hatch. What do you think the counter for a tortoise is at 5.7? Shoot the MG port. Nearly every tank we have in this game that is considered armored has a weak point that is pennable 1.0 under itself while having almost no other area that is. We have dozens of examples. Why is the IS3 the one you care about?

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IS-3 deserve 7.3
just like T32
and yk what else has better armor than Maus(against conventional round)? T32E1

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The other examples given have massive downsides the IS-3 lacks, and again, there are tanks below, at the same BR and ABOVE the IS-3 that STILL cannot penetrate anywhere frontally but the driver port. This is not some huge massive weakspot and it’s also not the same thing as being impenetrable ONLY to vehicles FAR lower in BR than you.

You have yet to provide a reason. The T32 doesn’t have a frontal weak point like the IS3. It has 50% more turret armor. It has 10 degrees gun depression. Its a FAR better tank. Again, lots of experience here.

Yup, the T32E1 has better armor than the maus. But LITERALLY no one calls it OP. Wana guess why? Because by 7.7 nearly everyone still pens that armor. And it doesn’t have the maus’s 6 crew durability.

@Normandy_Corsair What do you think the standout quality of the IS3 is? The gun is bad. It sits on the IS2 1944 that is nearly an unplayed tank due to how awful it is. It has no speed, it has no depression, it has awful crew placement. All it has is that frontal armor that can’t even be angled due to the nature of piked armor. It has a weak point that can’t be hidden and the tank can’t hull down without presenting it. The IS3 also is sitting on massive downsides. thats the point. Its a bad tank… except for armor. And that armor is pretty meaningless at 7.3.

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