The IS3 needs to move from 7.3 to 7.0

Me as a Russian Player the IS-3 is perfect for it BR nobody can pentrate you anyways and you always stay domiant. Lowering it down make it very unfair.

If a vehicle seeing certain amount of certain vehicles is a problem, then it shouldn’t ever face them.

Balance should never be reliant on how many people play or don’t play certain vehicles, nor depend on how lucky or unlucky you are to get uptiers or downtiers.

Every vehicle should be balanced at all times against all of its opponents.

Pure fantasy with little grasp on reality. Perfect balance is asking for the impossible, and demanding it is going to get you nothing.
If a 6.0 tank only ever sees upteirs, it will be considered weak. Its not because of the inherent capabilities of the tank, its due to its matching. Does it deserve a downteir? If you say no, then the tank will remain weak and no one will play it. If you say yes, then what you are seeking is not balance against all its opponents. Your argument just doesn’t work.

With that attitude, maybe.

The truth is, it would only take some decompression for opponents to only face vehicles within the same range of technical capabilities.

That’s all it would take.

Matches shouldn’t be a matchmaking lottery where you either stomp or are stomped because the range of potential capabilities is so large.

None of those suggestions have merit.

There would be a super-small selection of tanks at BR 5.0 that could scratch the IS2. On the reverse the IS2 would one-shot almost everything it aimed at.

As for the IS3… a similar comparable is the Conqueror
It has better frontal turret armor (with a horrible weak spot mantlet) but significantly worse armor on sides and back.
Though the conqueror has better reload and pen, it is still quite slow and has no HE filler.
The conqueror top speed is slower compared to the IS3.

All of the above and the Conqueror sits at 7.7 And you think it reasonable to drop the IS3 to 7.0? I don’t agree at all.

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Conq also has the worlds most random ammo. Your shot may turn the enemy into fine dust, it may simply dissapear into the void with a mere hit.

Ok, i’ll bite. Name a tank at 5.0 that can’t pen the is2’s 100mm mantlet or pen the driver’s hatch. I’ll wait. The EBR would struggle at 5.3, but that tank has a lot wrong with it that i’m not going to touch on.

Conq has 10 degrees gun depression and has a full stab. it has 500 pen. Its designed as a sniping tank. None of these are comparable to the is3. The only reason the conq is considered bad is because that apds round has something wrong with it. Dozens of people have tested and come to the same conclusion. When they changed the pen from 380 to 500 they changed something in the postpen numbers that messed up the shell, generating seemingly random postpen effects that have little to do with the plate hit or the remaing velocity after pen (how most apds work).

i dont think 5.0 ish player has gain enough braincell to know where to aim at IS-x tank

The churchills exist. Therefore your argument doesn’t hold much weight. They have FAR more armor than the IS2 has for its br. No one is calling churchills OP.

cuz the gun cant pen anything
and its slow
it also has only solid shot

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None of which has to do with players struggling to pen it. Which was your argument. The IS2 has 100mm armor turret. No tank at 5.0 struggles with 100mm flat armor. Hell, the SA-50 has 200 pen.

Yes, I also play on a friend’s account who has Germany upgraded to 9.0. At 6.7 it has great firepower, reload time and not to mention the armor, one of the best in this tier, however their mobility is slow, but it has all these other things to compensate.

i looked through TT of most nations at churchill(s) BR, almost all of them has tank that can pen the churchill
Churchill isnt even that armored like you say, churchill actually suffer, it has no pen, its slow and it get easily flanked

do you know 1 tank that struggle to pen 100mm flat armor? Its the Churchill VII at 4.7, which face 5.7 that can pen it
also IS cheek is trolly, which u would get because its curved and volumetric, Churchill doesnt have that much volumetric, because its a box with a box on top

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The drivers hatch and mantlet are not large, so unless you are quite close good chance you don’t have a great chance of hitting them, unless the IS2 is idle and just letting you shoot.
The Jumbo 76 has a weak spot like that on the front - should it drop as well?

As for Conqueror and IS3, they are both slow, have slow reload and both have unreliable ammo, which is what I was comparing. The IS3 should also be played in a similar role since the slow turret rotation and long reload makes it a terrible brawler.

Solid shot, just like APDS. It’s not one-shotting the IS2. Ant return fire would obliterate the SA-50.

Holy hell man, your takes are awful. Trying to argue the IS3 should be playing a sniper role? Unreliably ammo on the IS3? Really sounds like you haven’t played them. If you think a 240 pen APHE is unreliable at 7.3 you really just don’t have any round that is.

Jumbos should have dropped ages ago. Panthers can pen the UFP without weak point. Again, we are talking about FULL DOWNTEIR being able to pen a heavy tank. If the weak points weren’t small, the tank WOULDN"T BE EFFECTIVE.

@MrBombastic8 Again, you completely miss the point. Churchill sit at a point in the BR where your argument of low skill should be more prevalent. The Church has WAY more armor for its BR than the IS2/3. Both the IS2 and 3 are pennable by EVERY vehicle at their own br without issue. The comparison is full downteir. 3.0s struggle to pen the church 3 without weakpoint hits. But the vehicle is still awful because… people can shoot weak points. At every BR. The assumption they can’t is just forced ignorance.

Well judging by your posts, sounds like you haven’t played them much - or at least have no clue how to play them

Your opinion is obviously in the minority, so learn how to use the IS3 as it’s supposed to be used.

You would be about as wrong as you could be. 260 games in the conq. 277 in the IS3.

Meanwhile, you have 15 kills, 36 deaths arcade in the conq. 0 in the is3. zero in both in rb. You might want to sit down and stop portraying yourself as understanding the tank in question.

obviously ur the minority because u use his stat

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