Why can only German tanks have such a difference in armor and penetration compared to other tanks from different nations? Either the level of some German tanks is increased or the level of tanks from other nations is adjusted to have a fair game.
German tanks between rank 2 and 5 usually are good in long range and bad in CQC, thats means bad in the 80% of the actual WT maps. Go and play Jagdtiger, Ferdi or Tiger 2H is very funny being attacked for 3 different points at the same time before you are even closer from first captured point.
Any tank from any nation can be attacked from the front, from the side, from above, from behind, from below, and be killed or incapacitated as a consequence, this is not exclusive to any nation.
The biggest issue with your suggestion is that other tanks wont be able to pen you and lets not forget the soviet plot armour that it has so yeah no its okay there at 7.3
6.7 is compressed enough as it is this is a compression problem not a vehicle problem in a ideal world wed have different brs for tanks but gaijin cant do it cause lazy
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Have you ever played germany 6.7? That place is hell
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IS3 has only been dominant once. And that was when HEAT was nearly non-existent, worse performing and only the leo was around to counter it. This isn’t the same game anymore.
Seriously though, look at how many IS2/3s you see at the top of the score boards anymore. none. Over nerfed with harder competition and a meta that long ago shifted to faster tanks and no-armor-best-armor.
IS3 would be fine at 7.0. IS2 1944 should be 6.3 at most and is2 should probably go down to 6.0 again (it was 5.7 not long ago).
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Two. First at 6.7 and later to 7.0 and no, we dont need a third time.
Oh yes fighting IS-3 in Tiger E, nerfed Panthers or M4/T26. Just no.
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That i know of, is3 has never been 6.7. When they added GF, it was 7.0. I have screenshots from 10 years ago showing it was 7.0. It was moved to 7.3 and sat for ages, then down to 7.0 (where it did nothing), then up to 7.3 with the mass rebalance.
Only during first release of GF was it OP. APHE was worse, HEATFS was god (and nearly nothing had it), and everything with sloped armor was much more effective. Overmatch REALLY helped 122mms vs light tanks (you couldn’t bounce against armor 1/3 of your shell diameter, meaning you could pen roofs at any angle). Then they nerfed HEATFS, is3 got moved up, overmatch got removed, and heat started showing up everywhere. Hull break was nice on the 122 but you could still overpen and not hit any vital component on light tanks. Overpressure on the 122 was only added after the is3 was far beyond relevance.
Comparing tanks to their full downteir is how you make armor meaningless. T32 still sees dozens of tanks that can’t pen it frontally. IS3 actually has worse armor and actual weak points.
Tiger 1s, panthers, and US long 90 can pen the driver port with APHE on the is3 at over 500m. Driver port is nearly impossible to hide and actually fire. Also, if you hit high you can shot trap into the driver hatch.
IS3 also has a MASSIVE muzzle break making it one of the easiest tanks in the game to barrel break.
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In 2014 this tank was in rank similar to 6.7 tanks IIRC so basically stayed in 6.7. And later with the BR introduction was in 7.0 destroying completely game for a time.
Oh yes and US 90 mm can pen Tiger 2H frontal turret in a tinny spot too so lets suggest move down the Tiger 2H cuz that?? hell no.
Sorry but thats is not valid reason for move down the IS-3.
Why not move up the big spam of postwar tanks instead of making russians even a more op nation???
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No, thank you, we don’t need Tiger 1s, Panthers, M4/T26s and M18 Hellcats facing IS-3s now.
And neither do we need M4A3E2s facing IS-4Ms.
And neither do we need M26s facing T-10Ms.
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we need decompression not more compression theres no need to make it 7.0
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Again, you are trying to convince ppl that a tank was dominant a DECADE ago so it shouldn’t be viable now? 7.0 now in no way resembles 2015 7.0.
So you are saying that a tank should not have difficulty penning a heavy tank a full upteir from it? Idk what armor is supposed to do in that case. Because we have already agreed that the driver port weak point is pennable, meaning it isn’t frontally immune to a full br under it. At its own br its a joke vs every round it can see.
T32 is nearly strictrly better than the is3. better armor, slightly less pen but better reload, good gun depression, turret able to shrug off 300 and 320 pen HEAT, and still faster. Sits at same br and isn’t even considered that stand out of a tank. 6.3 tanks have a FAR harder time with the T32 than the 6.0s would have with the T32.
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Yep.
If every current BR were moved up by a factor of at least 1 step, then we would have a range 33% larger than now, which would alow for several adjustments, more nuance, and for vehicles to only ever face opponents closer in capabilities.
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the brs are comperssed we need decompression not more compression
heres a classic example of compression F14B vs SU33
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Maus is the best example for me.
Gaijin removed it because “it was impossible to balance”…
Because “8.7 is too strong for Maus, while 6.7 is too weak for Maus”…
And I’m like: THEN JUST MAKE IT NOT FACE EITHER 8.7S NOR 6.7S! DECOMPRESS!
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the same mantra peolpe have been saying for literally a decade. Any problem? decompression. But thats not how any of this works. They literally just decompressed 7.7 less than a year ago.
6.0 tanks CAN fight an is3 frontally. Many 6.3s have no difficulty. Most 6.7s are just as effective if not more. If you EVER want armor to be effective you have to make the concession that full downteirs shouldn’t be able to point-click a heavy tank in a full upteir. It doesn’t matter how compressed or decompresed the game is, thats just a gameplay fundimental.
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WHAAAAAA my ONE tank that doesn’t fit the mould should make them do an incredible amount of rebalancing to make it fit. Yeah, not happening.
The maus is effective at 7.7. Most 6.7s and 7.0s struggle to pen it, and even if they can they need 2-3 pens at min to kill it. The maus pens anything even in an upteir. Literally the same thing as the is3 if it was at 7.0. That people expect the maus to be unpennable is the problem, not the tank.
This goes for many, many, many tanks.
Many 5.7s have no business facing either 6.7s nor certain 4.7s.
Many 9.3s have no business facing either 8.3s nor certain 10.3s.
Etc.
So they end up pumping them in BR so they don’t stomp in downtiers, which only leads them to be further stomped on uptiers, etc.
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