The IMI 60mm HVMS M113 First Prototype. M113 HVMS Discussion Thread

IMI 60mm HVMS M113 First Prototype


As of the launch of the Dev Server for upcoming update “Spearhead”, the Israeli tree will be receiving the first Bardelass M113 IMI prototype fitted with a unique turret and 60mm HVMS gun, co-developed between OTO and IMI. After the collaboration fell through. The first prototype featured a magazine fed autoloader, stabilizer, and access to IMI 60mm APFSDS shells. This prototype unfortunately never went anywhere, but the turret and ammunition found use elsewhere in foreign service. IMI later made a second prototype with a different turret and autoloader of 28 rounds, rather than the 6 this one has.


As of now, the vehicle has some inaccuracies present, which I’ve listed below:


Important Bugs:

  • Missing Autoloader, wrong reload, wrong first stage, and incorrect ammunition storage.
    Bug Report: Community Bug Reporting System
    Status: Accepted.
    Result: Reload rate should be reduced from 5s to 0.6s. First Stage ammo storage should be reduced from 8 to 6. Autoloader module should be added. Ammo layout should be adjusted.

Less Important Bugs:


As always feel free to discuss the Vehicle and its addition below, as well as link any new bug reports you make/find!

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Definitely going to start down the Israeli tree for this. The 60mm gun is just neat. This tank looks really interesting.

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i wonder what br it’ll get if it actually get it’s autoloader?

I’d say 8.7 if I were to guess since it would be kind of like the VCC-80/60 but with a worse hull, poor elevation, and no LRF/thermals. I feel like 8.3 might be too low since it could rapid fire 60mm APFSDS-T rounds

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8.7 seems to be the reasonable spot given how fast it can fire. The second prototype would likely fill 9.0 right after it with its increased first stage stowage.

I want my baby HSTV-L NOW!

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Was there ever a version of this vehicle with the IS-10 smoke dispensers?

Real question is that where is its addon armour

This is gonna be an israeli HSTV-L if it’ll get the reload it has irl

i’m pretty sure that’s the late prototype

This one has a lot more than just ERA. The crosswind sensor in the back indicates a new FCS, and those that can fit such a small platform at the time generally could also mount thermals. There are also smoke launchers and it might also have laser warning sensors (although it is hard to tell due to the low resolution).
This version would sit much higher in BR, it could be added in the future.

btw i have some sources on this, but how can someone know if an HVMS turret has the autoloader or not if looking from the outside?
because there are versions with and versions without

asking for a friend…

the friend

Marder MICV (HVMS 60): Autoloading marksman

Yeah I was wondering why such small caliber has almost same reload as a 120mm one. And even with an autoloader.

Kinda excited for this vehicle (I hate with my soul the m113 buT the 60mm dart looks good). Tho expect the reload fix to come with a high uptier.

This has spall liners and the m50 hvms has stab?

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I don’t believe so.

I don’t believe so either, but that’s a good question for @Chilean_Thunder

How strong is the apfsds?
Wonder if it will be better then the namer

Also mark my words it wont stay 7.7 for long so enjoy it while u can

~250mm flat pen and point blank range. It doesn’t do a lot of post pen damage though, so the buffed reload rate will help with that.

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All those turrets, whether it’s the early version (of the game) or the late one, used an autoloader. The difference is the total capacity of the magazine, one being 2x3 and the other 4x7. That’s why Gaijin needs to fix that.

No, but it had a new Israeli FCS called MSZ-2 that had a laser rangefinder and night vision, we have a theory that perhaps the IMI turret also had this system or a similar one with LRF since it is mentioned in Janes

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oh you mean the chaffee/bulldog thingy with the HVMS already in game… yeah.

although i ask because i remember reading something along the lines of the lack of autoloader in some versions. Perhaps its the italian production variant (HVGS)?

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although this excerpt from janes speaks this about the TAAS variant

I didn’t understand this

This is the official IMI brochure detailing the 2 reloading systems, both automatic, the Italian turret had manual reloading but that was an independent development.

There is also this source from James that explains the 2 automatic recharging systems.

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you said

so i thought warthunder already had this in game
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mb if it isnt