The Horseshoe Pouch!

What website tracks what you’ve spent?

I’m prob up to 56 mil now.

plz donate. I spent 3 mil sl and got nothing, i’ll prob try again on some other box when i have over 10 mil sl

lucky bastard
i’ve been wanting a surblinde so bad

you should definitely try the french now, the 7.7 autoloaded lineup is very fun

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i want the amx 50 1090, t55e1,

Wait there’s a website that tracks it?

Gaijin’s own site 😄 I take a screenshot of my totals before I start, and then subtract. BUT, when I checked earlier, it looks like it is NOT keeping track of any extra SL’s you get from the crates, only tracking your battles.

However, I think we can calculate how many SL’s have been gained from battles, then add in the average % of SL’s that you “get back” from the crates. Give me a little bit and I will find and check the spread sheet threads from previous crate events. This WOULD be assuming that you are spending all of your SL’s into the crates. If you purchase any vehicles, especially any that cost something like 1m SL’s, that will change the results. Still probably close enough to estimate your average drop rate for vehicles during a particular crate event.

To see your totals, go here and enter your user name:

https://warthunder.com/en/community/searchplayers/

Ok, here is War Tinder’s latest/last thread, you can see their spreadsheet linked there. I am going to have to do a little bit of math to get an average SL amount “returned”, per 1m SL’s spent on crates. Based on the % odds of each type of SL return. Not too difficult, but I’m going to do it in a spreadsheet so I’m less likely to mess up. I will share the formula that I come up with here so that you guys can double check my work.

War Tinder’s thread: Community project: Calculating the Snow Globe drop chances

Then, I will get a % amount in decimal that we can multiply by each 1m SL’s earned from battles to get an average result (the numbers shown on the “searchplayers” page.)

Where do you see it on there though I can’t see anything how much I’ve spent on them

It does not tell you directly lol. You have to do a handful of math yourself. You would have had to know how many SL’s you had earned before you started opening crates. The only other “real” way is to write down/record exactly how many crates you have purchased. I have no time for that 😂 I just keep buying crates over the course of the month, use my SL boosters, make more SL’s, and pace myself to finally run out of SL’s completely on the last day of the crates. I NEVER burn all my SL’s the first day, or even the first week. Huge massive waste of SL boosters to burn 10’s of millions of SL’s the first days.

Its 1/200. Other people have done the calculations too. The chances come out to around 1/200 for vehicles/

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Heya @war_Tinder 👋😄 Oh I remember ALL of your threads! Just going to make an “easy” multiplier amount for a couple of these guys to use if they want to see their specific/current drop % results.

It’s looking like its ~24% of SL’s are “returned” per crate. So for those who do not keep track of how many crates are purchased (like me) and if ALL SL’s are burned back into crates (like I do), take the amount of SL’s gained on the player search page and multiply by 1.238441753, divide by 60,000 = Crates Opened. At least approximately.

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I can show/share the maths if anyone is interested, but I reverse checked, and I’m pretty sure this is the right number to multiply by (IF someone is burning ALL of their SL’s back into crates).

Oh! Here we go, formula view:

Close up:
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Full view:

Full view, formula mode off:

Not sure how well this will show up, but here is a console view with a copy+paste of the formulas I used. OH! It DOES work copy+paste back into sheets. For anyone else, make a copy of War Tinder's spreadsheet on Google Sheets. Then, copy everything below. Finally, ONLY click/highlight cell "J5" and paste. It should work perfectly.
"x" number of SL Crates Purchased (Default 10, 600k SL's)			10
Total SL's Spent per "x" number of SL crates			=M5*60000
Ave Number of SL "rewards" per "x" crates			=M5*(G17/100)
			
Ave SL's "returned" per type, for "x" amount of crates			
		10k	=($M$5*($G10/100))*10000
		15k	=($M$5*($G11/100))*15000
		25k	=($M$5*($G12/100))*25000
		50k	=($M$5*($G13/100))*50000
		100k	=($M$5*($G14/100))*100000
		500k	=($M$5*($G15/100))*500000
		1m	=($M$5*($G16/100))*1000000
			
Ave total number of SL's "returned" per "x" crates			=SUM(M10:M16)
			
Multiplier for SL's burned into Crates			=(M18/M6)+1

If anyone sees any errors I made, or has a better suggestion on how to go about this, please let me know and I will edit 👍

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Closer to 1/250, but yes. Every survey that’s been done that doesn’t have a built-in favorable reporting bias comes in around there. 1/2500 for a vehicle coupon.

I think the interesting question is, as they add new vehicles each time, does the chance of all vehicles remain the same (so 250:1, divided by number of vehicles, for a given vehicle) or does it grow a little each time (so, maybe 10000:1 for a given vehicle when there were 40, but if they add 10 vehicles over time the chances of ANY vehicle increases commensurately).

Of course if you have the vehicle on account already, you’re just getting the SL, so if they don’t keep adding vehicles the value of the whole box effort will just continue to go down.

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1/250, I was misremembering. I knew someone had done the calculations better than me but I thought you also got 1/200. Didn’t you say coupon was 1/500 though?

Anyway, I’d guess the chance of each vehicle is (1/250 - 0.001)/[number of available vehicles]. That 0.001 is because they always have 1 vehicle that is much rarer. Though they don’t seem to for the Horseshoe Pouch so for this one it’d be 1/250/[number of available vehicles]. Alternatively, it’s 1/250/[number of available vehicles] and an additional 1/1000 chance of the extra rare one.

Nah, coupon to vehicle is definitely around 1:10.

Of course that’s per box, so a set of 10 (which is what everyone always does) you have to multiply by 10.

So for a set of 10 boxes, it’s about a 25:1 of getting a vehicle on account (or SL if you have it already), or a 250:1 of getting a vehicle coupon. Roughly… no one knows exactly.

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2890 opened this time around so far. 13 vehicles so yeah its still the 200-250 avg. And ofc didnt get either auto activate im missing only 2 a26/yak3t

Last time I got a vehicle was a year and a half ago. It was Haruna. I already had it. This is over more than 500 boxes. I am very unlucky.

Damn, how much sl do you usually put into the crates? 500 for 1 is half the avg odds. Only had 90 mil to mess with this time around since I opened 20,000 some odd winter crates to get my ersatz and nc900 just a couple months ago.

+1 from my total experiences with the crate events. I usually get ~10 vehicles per event (if I spend over the 100m SL mark) and I have gotten nearly exactly 1 coupon per 10 vehicles. It is for sure NOT higher than 1:10 coupons:vehicles. I have never once gotten something like 3 coupons per 10 vehicles. I think I did get 2 coupons in one event BUT, then didn’t get any coupons on another event. So the average is still almost exactly 1:10 for me overall through the years.

Got my fifth vehicles and it’s another boat the Z25 swear gaijin is playing sick prank on me. I don’t want these awful boats I want tanks 😭

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HEADPHONE WARNING!

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I’m tired of these damn BOTES 😭 give me surblinde or something

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