The horrid state of 10.7 ground RB

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Abrams has DU armor and DU rounds in-game currently.
M829, M829A1, and M829A2 are all DU rounds.

And USA got M10 Booker being under-BR’d, but it’s not complained about because of reasons we can look up on Statshark.
America gets OP tank but they don’t use it. Soviets get OP tank and they spam it out.

They aren’t a 1:1 direct comparison, cause BMPT came in a minimum of 1.0 below its correct BR, and M10 Booker came in 1.0 below the BR of its equal: VT5.

@Puntx
USA and Soviets have zero fake vehicles in-game.

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Check again
Russia specially has a few tanks that never passed a wooden mockup stage
Or a variant of a real tank that never existed irl but exists in game

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The puma and vehicles alike, like the CRV in my opinion do have a place in the game but it feels very off, i also think artillery vehicles could maybe replace the artillery strike if they add some sort of mechanic for that. regardless I see more of a fit for vehicles like the crv in infantry modes seeming they would be a lot more practical.

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When I did my research 4 years ago, there was nothing, there is still nothing.
And the last sentence of your post is irrelevant to fake vehicles.

And to the general attitude of posts in this topic…
BMPT is an issue, but that is not a reason to have a tantrum.

EBR, Puma, etc before it.
Sometimes Gaijin screws up, and we call them out on it.
It’s not the end of the world.

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They have already screwed up, the timing of releasing the crv and the terminator at the same time is a fuckup

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Okay! 👌
If it makes you feel better

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/s/bQY099XgcX

And that’s not it
There somewhere should also be a fake t55 variant that never existed

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I already knew about that fake list [ironic considering its material]…
And that page cites zero Soviet vehicles as fictional of their own opinion.

So even them with their flawed view state that there are no fictional vehicles in the Soviet tech tree.

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This is some hardcore denial

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Then stop denying it…
No Soviet vehicles:

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And the only American vehicle was a mistake in research.

Their list has inaccuracies, but you cited it as a gotcha when I already proved its inconsistency.
If you’re going to cite something, read it first.

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If you borrow it down fake to fictional sure
But fake is generally considered as didn’t exist or wasn’t operational
Bc I’m pretty sure an f16aj could fly
Even if Japan never actually ordered one
And look at all those Chinese vehicles lol

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And don’t forget about naval

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It’s almost like someone said,
People are having far too much fun in 9.7 - 11.7 lets ruin it
How do we ruin it brain
well it’s simple pinky we put the bmpt’s at 10.3 and make one a premium and then we can get!
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No, being fake has a very specific definition.
If you want to say “never saw service” or “had production interrupted/cancelled”, say that instead.
I can’t comment on Chinese vehicles, the ones mentioned were added early on in ground RB.

Naval has zero fake vehicles because naval vessel introduction is stricter than ground and air.
Naval can only have production vehicles, while ground and air can have various prototypes and technology demostrators so long as they were armed or had the equipment being made/already made to be armed with intent.

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Sure buddy

Then the list of vehicles people complain about saying it’s fake can be cut in nearly half
Cuz a prototype at least existed even if it wasn’t functional

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Kronshtadt
Is just as real as hori lol

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Kronshtadt was in production, same as Z47.
All ships in-game were at some stage in production.

M10 Booker was cancelled, and is actually the best example of a tank that ships are given the same exact treatment for addition.

And no, Ho Ri is no where close to as real as M10 Booker and Z47.

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Im sorry man the Maus ? really? Hard to balance? Anything with HEAT or HEATFS just shreds the thing. Theyre just being lazy about it at this point.

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I can’t exactly figure out what you count as real or not
Ship was never built irl
But bc they started working on it means it counts as real?
What about wooden mock ups?
Or finished paper drawings?
Where’s the limit?

With that logic
Panther II is real enough

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Fake: Never existed.
Wooden mockups are entirely different vehicles to functional vehicles.
Real: Has evidence of production unit.

Kronshtadt was being built, you can google aerial photography of the war and see for yourself.