The only thing that sucks about air RB is that if you’re killed right away there’s no respawn like ground RB so you have to start a whole new match again and it can get very annoying. Plus if you’re just base bombing you better hope you have the faster plane otherwise you’re screwed.
Good. Why would this be a bad thing?
Every other free to play game in history, including Navyfield and World of Tanks.
Why is that a bad thing? Because new players coming in and finding out how quickly it takes to get to top tier then getting discouraged from continuing to play.
Never heard of Navyfield and WOT is garbage. There reaches a point were you can only push the players so far before it turns negative. Do you remember what happened like 2 years ago when they tried to make economy changes for the worse and how bad the backlash was?
If the player doesn’t feel like they’re progressing a reasonable rate then majority of the time they quit playing and look elsewhere. So why not reduce the grind a bit and have a better chance of bringing in more money with player more willing to spend it on a game that they feel like they’re progressing in?
At this point of the game , they should do one of the two things .
One option is to break tech trees to WW2 and post-war. That would allow players that want to play jets (and post war/modern stuff in general) play what they like. Also , you won’t have to manage 500 vehicles in one MM, since it will be like playing different mode, they can have their own MM. You can have P-26 start at 1.0 BR and F-80 start at 1.0 BR .
I know that WW2 jets existed and post war props existed. Those can play where they should. Me 262 variants that fought in the war, P-80, Meteor F.1/ F.3 those can be 14.0 in the WW2 tree. Me 262 experimentals etc. can go to post war at 2.0 BR along with F-80 , Meteor F.4 etc.
Spitfire Mk14 for ex. can be 13,3 or something in ww2 tree, Spit 24 goes post war at 1.0 BR.
That would reduce the grind, but not really if you want to play everything, make the game more interesting because you play what you want or progress towards it without having a roadblock of 200 vehicles infront of you (you’ll have 20) and decompress the game as well.
That’s the easiest solution.
The other is, make premium subscription unlock everything for as long you are subbed to the game, keep research point and people to be able to research vehicles to be usuable in free mode (so you won’t lose progression if you had obtained t8 for ex.) and make modifiers work from any tier backwards(like premium planes). Premium planes have better modifiers anyway, so they are still useful and talismans are still useful because they upgrade the modifier.
Someone may say that’s P2W-ish method. Well it’s not. You don’t win a fight by progressing. And in the end it is a company, they have to get payed.
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If I want to play with top tier vehicles then i do what ?
Thats such an bad argument , it doesn’t matter if the game doesn’t have the end goal to be top tier even though IT IS (NEW CONTENT IS TOP TIER FOCUSED NOT LOW TIERS) if the player wants to play with top tier vehicles what should he do ? , grind , thats it, and also I don’t care if ‘top tier is not fun’ for you , im looking for top tier so I can PLAY THE NEW CONTENT the game offers
Most people are dumber than a box of rocks. They have zero patience, are only interested in instant gratification and lack any kind of appreciation for enjoying the “journey” and are just obsessing about the “destination”.
If you’re only interested in the top tier, you’ve chosen the wrong game.
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The games needs income to exist and survive - so people buying premium time and talismans and premium vehicles are the people who Gaijin caters for.
F2P grind is quite deliberately a PITA because you are the product being “sold” to premium players and beyond that you have no value to the game.
Buy top tier premium vehicles or grind - again the snail values you more if you pay them money.
If you want to grind past around 5 you need to buy premium.I really wonder how F2P players ever get to top tier.
I never got the amount of free stuff I get upon signing in each day as a non payer when I had premium. It’s almost as though they dont care once you are singed up. Bit like renewing car insurance.
What’s that?
I sometimes see little low rank bonuses for signing on and I’ll try to claim the… I think I got a new decal a couple of weeks ago :)
The one I think I’d really like is the E-sports camo for the Gladiator - it looks good, but it wouldn’t let me get that :(
Once you’ve signed up they want you to keep signing up - they are actually very egalitarian - they want everybody’s money… because otherwise the game folds!
you think that over 1k hours worth of playtime is worth to get to the end game?
Wake up dude , people have life , the grind on this game is far from anything normal, its not like im going for that content after the end game im yet trying to reach the end game.
This is NOT a patience problem having to play this ammount of time is the reason why you find those dumb ppl on top tier , they are gonna buy those premium vehicles to be able to reach the end game in a decent rate, and if you want to grind for years and years go play some random rpg out there there a re plenty that forces you to play over 5k hours , so your getting that “journey” that you think its great
Your playing the game for what ? , for ww2 tier 3 vehicles ? bc anything over that starts to be a pain to grind
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The amount for the SL and RP bonuses were noticeably greater when I stopped Premium after 4 years. Laughably so ,and the amount of bundles given.I also got 1 million SL as F2P while I never got that in four years of premium.
I don’t see any evidence of that other than a painfully slow grind.
Ah - when I started I think the daily bonus coupons always added up to 300 game-percent points - ie a 20% bonus would give you 15 games, 30% 10 games, 100% 3 games, 150% 2 games
These days of course it’s mostly 1 game for anything over 50%.
Er… yes… that is the evidence - it is the “motivation” to pay money as discussed above.
I agree there is plenty of myth and self fore filling prophecies etc on here but this one was very noticeable and actually quite welcome.The less I played the game the greater the freebies became.
I mean it does take way too long, but lets be honest they aren’t gonna change it the cancer grind is their best money maker If it was reasonable it wouldn’t piss you off enough to buy premium vehicles that are variants or premium time. It’s kind of like why events are cancer make it almost impossible for some one with a full time job so you end up paying for it.
I have 3.2k hours and I FINALLY reached top tier germany both in air and ground. Scratch that I don’t have the eurofighter so I’m not top tier air. I got top tier air right before the EF was added.
The best money maker is always to make people want spend money on the game, not force it. Most of those who, for example, spend money right now in order to have a chance of getting top tier without sacrificing their real life, will keep spending money for a chance to of getting top tier in 2-3 nations, because the game will become more fun and enjoyable to them
No! I actually like the idea of a limitless amount of vehicles.
As I have already stated, I believe that the notion of a ‘grind’ is something that you put on yourself.
I don’t want to be the devil’s advocate, but how else is the game supposed to make money? You’d rather have 15 seconds of advertising before the match?
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Not sure why you replied to me - I agree - game has to make money, and it wouldn’t be 15 seconds before the match, it would be 15 seconds then, and again after every kill, and 1 minute between…
How do games like fortnite make money? How do games like CS make money (and before you say it’s pay to play, I guarantee you - most of they money CS makes is not from buying the game itself). Game doesn’t need to force you to pay to make money
At the end of the day - topics like this go nowhere. It’s just a bunch of guys (or gals) who haven’t got their head around what free-to-play games are, the psychology behind them, and how grind is good - grind is life. Gaijin keeps making bank and the game continues to grow year-on-year because they understand this.
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