After the update this spaa got a buff on its ap shells by changing the cannon and now it is destroying the 5.0 - 7.0 BR like the gepard on 8.3.
What are your suggestions to fix this?
@PercussionCap suggested adding SP cost for the new belt similiar to how CAS loadouts are now balanced which IMO would be great option.
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revert the buff
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Nah dog, if the Soviets get tech tree APHE thermal detonators on their planes, then the game can handle a small number of players with the Coelian having APHE as well.
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not sound logic
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It can penetrate heavy tanks of its tier from the front, it needs an increase in BR
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No doubt there, and there’s little chance it won’t increase in BR, but the issue is APHE itself and autocannon RNG calculations in general, not this rare tanks brand new buff.
It is the precise definition of sound logic.
one does not justify the other
people complain about SPAA being used as anti tanks…yet they use it themselfs
tons of nations have a anti air with AP bellts and shred tanks, now that coelian gets buffed everyone cries about it
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Haters are extra, extra, read all about it mad because they can’t get the Coelian, which is why it’s fun to watch the disproportionate crying about it.
It’s absolutely busted, but so are the vast majority of SPAAs in general and there are zero FP341 players who aren’t experienced at the game.
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Even after the buff it still has less penetration than the Russian M53/59 AA gun also at 6.3
Or the Italian Leopard 40/70 at 6.0
Or the french AMX-13 DCA 40 at 5.0
AA guns having enough pen to take out a tank at just the right range/angle isnt new or in anyway unique to the flakpanzer 341.
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However it’s pen combined with the armour and post pen damage it has makes it way too good for 6.3. Remember the kugel is a much worse SPAA and TD nearly a full BR higher.
Even then, SPAA shouldn’t be better at destroying tanks than actual tanks.
I actually think the kugels BR is too high now.
It used to be programmed as a belt fed guns with no reloading so that 1200 shot ammo capacity it had was absurdly good sustained fire.
Then giajin increased its battle rating
Then giajin nerf its performance it into the ground but keep its BR based on its pre-nerf performance
Its internal ammo storage still needs better modelling too, there is no way that 1200 shots fit inside the ammo storage currently modelled.
This has been an issue for years as well, and enables all the 35mm SPAAs to SOMETIMES (not as common as the many clips would have you think) phase through armor.
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not APHE
it’s now even a big problem, after a few weeks hype will die down and you will see them rarely, also its not even hard to kill, it only kills you if it shoots you first, it’s very good, but not broken
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yep. 60mm frontal armour is above average for a AA. but any tank with an issue penning 60mm armour at any range shouldn’t be in BR range of 6.3.
Internally the thing is absolutely packed with ammo. a pen anywhere is pretty much guaranteed to hit ammo
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exactly
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When someone actually know how to kill you (hit the turret) you are basically dead if you dont have a teammate to help you. People are just retarded but that’s nothing new
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