The F-5E is awful in 2024 and you're doing good in it because people is bad, not because it is good

A lot of stuff suffers in uptiers. The F-5E is really good.

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Doesn’t everything suffer in an uptier? Except a few rare exceptions

Again - pointing to planes that are under tiered due to lack of armament or countermeasures. The performance of the MiG-19 is obviously higher than the F-5E currently. You keep making these terrible arguments. No one is “screaming” either unless you count making threads complaining about non-existent problems nonstop…

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Lmao mantis is turning into the new vammilad at this point
Take a break from the forums for a week or two, for your own good.

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F-104G and F-4F say hi.

And no dont use “F-104 too fast” on me.
F-104 lacks “Good flight performance” because all it can do is go fast. You cannot really contest anything in a fight without being able to turn.

Add the Sea harrier to that list as well (I know its classed as a strike aircraft in game, but its really a fighter)

In fact I think the only aircraft at that BR that can really compete with the F-5s are the Mig-21s

In all honesty i forgot the harriers existed. TBH i would say sea harrier is a fighter. There is probably also something else i forgot but obviously everyone (except OP) gets the idea.

Mirage IIIs probably dont have a great time. But rarely see those. Same with a few swedish things. But yeah, I’d say the F-5s are probably some of the strongest aircraft (if not the strongest aircraft) in the game at their BR quite easily

Yeah M39s are inconsistent as fuck because of realshatter but, imo it can stay at 10.7BR.
Don’t get me wrong, it is really good dogfighter at its BR but, current 11.0s are facing against goddamn F-16As and MiG-29s, so, it is questionable to face against 12.0s again.

If 11.0-12.0 is decompressed, the F-5E and Kfir Canard can move their BR higher, but the only current 11.0 BR aircraft that can sit in that same BR are overtiered stuffs like the F-4EJ, F-104S and J-7D at best.

never had any problem with any guns in game, mostly because i don’t like using HE rounds but AP rounds which have their usefulness much more than what most people thinks about :)

f5e is super good, use AP belts for its guns to shred planes internals
missiles are ok
it gets easier gun aiming with radar lock
it has acceptable speed good turns and very good energy retention
F5 isnt supposed to be great its just mid/good in everything and that makes it awesome

@Smin1080p or @Stona_WT can you end this argument this Is a very 1 sided argument (against the poster) and i admit it’s fun to watch but it’s infuriating someone can’t shut up and accept defeat.

Should have worded that differently, also don’t ping them in the chat like that. Just PM someone (preferably at a lower level than senior) to deal with it.

Yeah, usually pacifica deals with things like this. Wonder where they’ve been? Hope they’re doing well.

I’ve been having to PM’ing threads to him get them taken care of.

This forum needs to be cleaned up of all his threads.

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Oh yeah, definitely

TBH, Mantis plays a valuable role as the forum clown. Cause everytime he posts, people stop arguing to go dunk on him, really brings everyone together.

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my blud keeps expecting an attack jet to win against a fighter mafia design

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