The F-5C is no longer good

that’s how the “OP F-5C” --crumbles into a fuel explosion-- (strikethrough not available?) pilot sniped without even touching the cockpit, the moment a single shell of the gsh23 spray manages to reach it’s fuselage.

I don’t say it’s op, i straight up demonstrate it.

you hit the pilot… there was no fire, let alone an explosion

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Thats a pilot snipe brother, there was no fuel explosion

true, i thought the small burning debris was part of the fuel. But still I can link you infinite videos I captured of GSh23L one tapping targets with a single click.

The explosive filler in the gsh23l is good enough to kill the pilot if it hits the fuselage, cut the tail off and burn the engines if it hits the rear, or blow the wing away if it hits it’s root. Meanwhile the M39’s are unable to kill anything quickly and have to rely on fires. You barely need three or four GSh23l to completely obliterate an aircraft while m39’s rely on planes turning hard to break their wings and hitting the engines because they either overpen up close or are already too slow with too little HE filler past 600 metres.

Defyn ranking the F-5s (C and E) at S Tier must mean something then

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I’m sorry but why is being killed by several 23mm rounds a bad thing?

I know the F-5 has a tanky dmg model but you can’t possibly expect it to survive being hit dead on.

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tanky? bruh the f-5c will become useless the moment something scratches its’ paint right now. Losing your rudder or a single aileron is a death sentence now. When I got it it was still busted enough to tank a sparrow and keep killing people, in fact i would bring the 1000lb bomb with me, shoot it down mid air near enemies and keep flying with a bright yellow belly while the enemy gets absolutely disintegrated. I’ve had a bad match where every single gsh23 clicks were hits but most of the time it’s a one hit dead. That’s not dead on, literally spray and pray. dead on is how I get the drakens stalled out and empty 40 rounds on them and they keep flying fine when I use the f-5s.

I mean it is a common knowledge that a plane is harder to steer when essential control surfaces are missing. Basic science.

Anything else is not normal, but more a busted damage model. Fixing a broken damage model does not make a plane bad.

As example: The Hunter cant turn shit when 1 elevator is even damaged the slightest.

When you perform worse with a fixed damage model, I think you were relying too much on the crutch of a broken damage model.

there’s a slight difference between “becoming harder to steer” and literally being unable to fly. For starters the f-4s are completely fine without the whole vertical stabilizer, unable to yaw, while the f-5s will waddle uncontrollably painfully dragging around, unable to surpass 340 kmh of airspeed.

Meanwhile drakens can lose both wingtips and the rudder and still fly fine. Even more so that we ignore that the j35xs is even tankier, has six aim9j’s and the flight model of the mirage 2000… at the same BR.
But nobody sees it because “sweden is minor nation” despite it has some of the best aircraft in the supersonic jet tiers.

The fact that it’s 2024 and people are still crying over something barely 10kmh faster than a mig19, a quarter of it’s thrust, the worst rank 7 missiles (two only, that will pull 35g’s to go for a flare they left behind) and rather underwhelming firepower and just as hot as any other afterburning aircraft (good enough to eat r60’s and magic 1’s even flaring) is baffling.
If you’re in a 10.3-11.3 fighter and die to f-5c on a daily basis, you also die to zeros on a daily basis. If you die to the f-5e constantly, you also die to N1K2’s.

it doesn’t have a tanky damage model. The only time i struggle killing it is with m39 cannons because these are underwhelming. I just aim to the rudder, it goes away instantly sending the f-5’s into an install stall. Tanky damage models are the drakens, which are literal fuel tanks engulfing an engine with no armor and they need at least two sparrow strikes to actually go down.

Its great for 10.3, but you will never not at least be 11.0 most games 11.3.

10.0 planes same boat. 9.7 seems to be a sweet spot.

Who knows after the BR changes.

Gaijin needs to stop making premiums all the same BR pretty much. That is what causes this. So many 11.0 and 11.3 premiums compared to everything else. A lot of the 10.0-10 7 premiums are ground strikers that are meme/misery to play in AR and since they are already spaded dont need to grind that for mods.

I already know this is gonna be hidden but no wonder you got chat banned in the game. Some of the stuff you said must have forced the Staff’s hand. Wish some of the staff here did something as well cause these threads are at this point nothing more than someone complaining cause they think an aircraft isn’t good enough. Due to it being heavier than later variants.

Mind please sticking to the topics? You always keep derailing entire conversations into ad hominems or direct attacks to me.

The staff told me that I said the F word too much (even if it’s for saying “for >F< sake!”) and a couple of anti-chinese gaming culture slander comments. They chat banned me for a year after getting chat banned over 15 times for spamming the F word. Had I been ACTUALLY toxic and racist I would have been chat banned permanently from the second go. Not until this time i knew that the F word was a reason to get chatbanned in this game.

No biggie, and i’m ok with the punishment. The only people I need to talk with are on discord, whatsapp and real life.

As I said.
An aircraft is not supposed to fly normal when control surfaces are damaged or even missing.
You get hit, you get punished.

fine being?
flying straight back to the airfield?

Some planes are more stable than others. But that’s no fault of the flight- or damage model, but the fault of the engineers who designed those aircraft.
Of course you will wobble around when the part that prevents it is missing.

its at 10.7 right now, the F-5C at 10.3.
It is also a delta wing.
It also has 1/5 of the flares.
The J35s flightmodels have also been nerfed in the latest major update.

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And on top of that:
Have terrible cannon placement
It’s easier to hit
Significantly loses speed in maneuver

F-5C is more than fine…

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This troll post is still going on?

F5 family is more than “good”, one of the best planes for there br

yeah, because enemies think it’s fine to do a 180 turn on the first enemy they see.

laughs in never died to one if i paid attention.

So we are the usual suspects of brainrotten wt chat