The F-5C is no longer good

lmao

J35 lmao, you clearly have no idea how to fly the F5C if you think the J35 is a better plane than the F5. I fly the F-5A(G)-40 and at 11.0 its arguably the best jet imo, people assume oh its a F5, people are clueless on how to fly F5’s and assume they will beat me. I play it smart, i stay over 900kph and BnZ with the guns, they are lazer beams, id say next to the Mig 27’s 30mm they are nearly on par and guven you have 560 ammo its great. F5E players will bleed far too much speed trying to turn to chase you, only turn about 7G’s or so and they will burn up their energy far faster than the F5A, sure they have the better low speed performance but so many of them would rather become slow and a easy target so i can fly back down and slap them. The only people crying about the F5’s being bad are people who genuinely have no idea how to fly them or sealclubbers who are salty its not 10.3 and they can bully 9.3’s anymore.

by this logic like 90% of the planes are bad

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ofc, he never played any draken

He’d probably complain about the F 35 beating him in a turn fight even though its the heaviest Draken lol. At this point he’s a sealclubber who is upset its not as OP as before or he genuinely has never played any other nations vehicles and had to deal with a actually smart F5 player (though with how many level 5 players base bomb in it, im not suprised)

If we consider the former argument between him and me, (stop complaining about F-5, and you should’ve unlocked the fighter instead of the attackers)

To him, maybe it is our fault that we chose to play 90% of ‘non-meta bad planes’ :|
And he wants to make F-5C be in ‘10%’

thing is, this guy is not even bad at the game, he just has the weirdest takes about things
shit like j8b is a kfir c7 equivalent
or a harrier being able to dogfight an f5 lmao
or m39 being bad cannons
or f5 actually having a very big heat sig
or j35 being able to keep up with an f5
or phantoms accelerating along f16’s
or swift f7 accelerating faster than an f5
or mig21 being able to catch up to a mig23
i think you get the gist

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basically yeah

While I agree OP is having a skill issue moment.

The fact that more and more premiums are showing up at the same exact BRs as older premiums, sometimes as the same airframe but better in almost every single way is bad.

The new Swiss F/A-18C premium is just a US F/A-18C Early premium but better in almost every single way, and the NF-5 is just a faster, better armed F-5C.

Both aircraft packs cost the exact same and both aircraft reside at the exact same BRs.

If they are flat out the same airframes but with changes to them there really should be no reason that they should be radically different performance wise if they are the same price and BR. Right now the F-5C and F/A-18C Early are flat out just worse buys than their superior counterparts in other trees.

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Both are compression problems.

In an ideal world, both would be at seperate BRs, but that just isnt possible at the moment.

Same is also true of the Harrier G1 vs AV-8A/AV-8S at 9.7. No way these 3 aircraft should be the same BR.

Their performance is close enough to warrant being the same BR currently. Sure, in the future that might change, but the difference isnt enough to warrant one moving without the other.

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the j35 does outdo all f-5s in a dogfight.

In air RB? nah. Only if they play like f-104s with no acceleration.

or mig21 being able to catch up to a mig23

MiG21 has a sea level top speed of 1300kmh, f-5c tops 1100kmh, mig23 tops 1400, i think that f-5c has LESS chances to catch up. An F-5E dive bombing onto a mig23ML can 100 percent catch up too, the VNE in the E is very high compared to f-5c.

While I agree OP is having a skill issue moment.

my best stats are on f-5s and by a long shot…

No its a Gaijin being greedy problem.

Such is very much so possible.

All three of those aircraft are nearly identical in performance bar the countermeasure load, and no, you cant cope that SRAAMs are bad.

Ah yes the F/A-18C sporting double the countermeasure load, GPS bombs, a vastly superior radar, and vastly superior engines is somehow equivalent to the F/A-18C Early, or how about the NF-5A which sports a full 20 m/s higher climb rate and AIM-9J equivalents at the same exact BR, please, tell me how you think the AIM-9E is somehow even remotely comparable to the J.

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if you have best stat in F-5 but having bad stats in other planes,

Others will gonna think that ‘good stat in your F-5’ isn’t proof of ‘you do not have skill issue’ but proof of ‘why F-5 are good, unlike your claim says.’

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thats a pretty big one, I didnt know about that

no CMs vs 240 CMs is a MASSIVE difference and yes. I can complain that SRAAMs are artificially nerfed through the floor at the moment ontop of being a buggy mess that dont actually work

It sports EGBUs unlike the F/A-18C Early.

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so its basically a C late without AMRAAM or 9M

Alright, lads, stay on topic about F-5C and counterparts in nearby BR.
Discussion about Swiss F/A-18C and USN F/A-18C has NO DIRECT CONNECTION with the original topic to me.

the F-5C didnt feel that oppresive playing against it. AIM-9E are weak and i can gap it in an F-111. the NF-5 is a severe issue at 10.7 though