Yes, because if you somehow managed to die to an F-5 in an F-111, when a fully laden F-111 is literally faster than an F-5, then that is massive skill issue.
As I said before, almost every plane can either outrun or outturn the F-5, and most can do both. The reason I excluded attackers is because no1 plays em.
I personally can’t remember the last time I’ve seen a buccaneer in battle, so using a bunch of planes that no1 plays to say the F-5 is better than most planes is simply a bad faith argument.
‘Noone plays Attacker’
(A-5C scored #4 in playcount last month while F-111A follows in #5.)
You never heard that a fully loaded F-111A can’t fold its wings at all, and is forced to remain subsonic. Right?
OF COURSE YOU ARE, because you never flew with Aardvark
If F-5 can’t catch Vark in full load, maybe because you are blind enough to lose your sight from Vark.
Because it is a side grade of SHAR FRS.1, which turns slightly better but has no gun and wings ripped off by overload in B-17 level.
Even SHARs are worthless to play thanks to F-5C, why would I play Buccs again in ARB after I spaded all three of them?
In the current meta of ARB, where only a2a matters, there is no meaning in playing Buccs unless you want to donate yourself to enemies.
Quite a sad story because she was one of the iconic jets of the FAA.
Honestly, atm, I believe that you are sitting here just to make me rage. :/
You talk big, but you just don’t show any kind of proof of it to support your claim.
At least I brought statshark stats for it.
No one plays attacker? pffff.
Man, that ragebait was a total gem.
Mudmover enthusiasts are also playing this game, and I was concentrating on spading both F-111C and A-7D/E before the naval event starts.
I would rather believe ‘that Tiger guy’ over you after this moment.
Cool, so we agree that F-5 killing a buccaneer doesn’t make F-5 good.
Which is why no1 cares abt your opinions XD
Well hey, if you prefer to continue dying completely avoidable deaths to F-5s, over swallowing your ego and learning how to actually counter em, then have at it.
A-10A Late was scored #3 in playcounts in June while only J-7D and F-5C had higher.
So my stance about ‘nobody plays attacker is a blatant lie’ still stands.
Maximum payload of 500lbs for Vark is 26, not 12.
(24 on wing, 2 in tiny bomb bay)
The lowest maximum speed limit of F-111A is 808kph(IAS)
And when I was spading F-111A, if I equipped any kind of payload on the outer pylon of the wing, then it permanently blocked the sweeping feature in match, which led Vark into a fatal catastrophe.
Great, F-5 kills buccs, and bucc has similar dull FM as Harriers does, then you will finally admit that F-5 will maintain the upper hand over Harriers.
I think it is better than claiming with zero proof.
Two F-5 still maintained their throne above both J-7D and F-8U(which you claimed that better than F-5)
(FYI, now StatSharks are finally showing data from July. June data was the freshest one when I showed it first.)
Well… in play count, our problematic F-5C barely maintained #2, but its play count has shrunk to 3/4 compared to June. Maybe good for you bc it could be indirect proof that F-5C isn’t meta and harder to play than J-7D.
We were talking about that F-5C and
You are the one who claimed that a fully loaded vark is faster than an F-5. Innit?
In the fully loaded loadout which you claimed, Vark is crystal clearly slower than F-5.
And look up.
My point still stands. Thanks to you who have never flown F-111A.
Sorry, but did you go delusional while reading that part?
‘Every plane that struggles to F-5 is a skill issue, except A-7’ at first.
Then you suddenly excluded ground attackers
Because no one plays them (lie)
“What I meant was a slow, defenceless attacker!”
I wonder who would expect that on July 28th.
When you spitted in hour ago.
I think I and other guy explained that a fully loaded F-111A is slower than an F-5
You are the one who told me that a fully loaded F-111A is faster than an F-5.
In fact, a fully loaded F-111A is slow as hell while being a completely defenceless attacker, which would fit your term perfectly.
Maybe F-111A with A2A loadout may be faster than F-5, but you know that you are the one who claimed full load.
Man, you are playing with your own damn words as hard as you can. Because nothing but you don’t want to admit you made diabolical claims.
And the current discussion is derailed as hard as we could and going round and round and around.
F-5C itself may look bad. It is a slow-supersonic fighter with bad missiles and relies on gunfight. Right?
But you exaggerated things too awfully which ends up with doomed claims.
F-5 can beat nothing except A-7 in a dogfight…
Harrier beats F-5…
Fully loaded F-111A is faster than F-5…
Nobody plays attackers…
Pff.
Yes. F-5C might not be as good as it was when it had no opponents.
But you are the one who exaggerated things.
If we consider all of the 10.7BR jet thanks to you who claimed F-5 can beat nothing but A-7 while it is easily defeated by Harrier
F-5C and its variant still maintain a higher rank than others, and deserve to be called ‘decent’ instead of ‘not good’
Well, maybe it failed to be on the podium.
I think this topic crossed the point of no return in terms of derailment and will create no positive return at all.
Then I wonder why mods didn’t intervene here yet.
Yes, you listed one of Warthunder’s only planes that loses to F-5.
I excluded ground attackers when som1 said that the F-5 is better than most planes at its BR, you just simply lacked the reading comprehension to see what I was talking about.
It’s not exactly fair to call the F-5 a great plane cuz it’s better than the A-7 and Buccaneer.
When I said “no one” plays the A-7 and Buccaneer, that was an exaggeration. Obviously there are people that play em, but they’re so few and far between that they’re basically no1.
Again, you fail to realize something that was obvious to everyone else.
I will admit, fully loaded wasnt the best choice of words. Most F-111 players are smart enough to take a partial load.
The F-5 would be one of the worst 10.7/11.0s if it wasn’t for a select few attack planes that are even worse.
I wouldnt exactly call a plane that compares to Warthunder’s worst vehicles a “good” plane.
would lose to any f-5 variant in any realistic 1v1 scenario
thats what a ragebaiter is :) hes quite fun to poke around to see what he spews out
btw never forget that this guy is barely positive or negative in all of the jets he plays, that should help you understand his looney takes
so, you speed away in your fully laden (sic!) vark… and do what? you cant really dictate the fight in that shitbrick
“just waste all of your energy to have a miniscule chance to hit a very agile plane with very low velocity cannons”
Actually, the FRS1 beat the F-5E in 1v1 combat at a ratio of 7:1 in 1980/1981 ish. They beat the USAF aggressor squadron so badly that an F-15 squadron heard about it and decided to have a go. Loosing to the FRS1s at a ratio of 3:1 in 2v2 combat
