Any changes to all EFT’s still leave the Germans worse off than the rest. Its really easy to say “Mk1 vs Mk2 is a weird hill to die on” when you exclusively play the best EFT in-game, and are therefore the one benefitting from this imbalance.
Obviously I want other EFT bugs to be fixed, but these 2 things arent mutually exclusive. I can want the German EFT to not be strictly worse than the British and Italian ones while also wanting all EFT bugs to be fixed.
which one is that exactly? both German tech tree tornados are inferior to the British counterparts and the event/premium ones are a joke
Mostly they will come fitted on the German T5 since AMK became part of the P4E, then other airframes can get it too, but that’s up to Germany to choose which aircrafts that will get it.
The Tornado SLE is better or equal to the Gr.4, comparing it to the Gr.1 is absolutely wild. The Tornado MFG isnt a joke, and its the exact same as the 1980s IDS in Italy.
If you are struggling with the SLE, I encourage you to grind Italy and find out what other Tornados exist
Additonally the BOZ-101EC has 480x countermeasures because gaijin decided to model it with normal size flares, when the BOZ-102EC (despite being the exact same just for Italy) was modeled with large flares and has a lot less
the GR.4 is just better lol, it has more brimstones and gets PGMs and BOLs, the German variants are strictly worse than the British counterparts
Britain does get BOL and the FLIR is nice. But Brimstones arent worth ever using and neither really are the PGMs. Not sure what the SP cost of the HOSBOs are, but if they are less than the PGMs then they are 100% better just from that, let alone the fact that I think they perform better
I wouldnt say better, they are on par at the very least.
For BOLs, as I just said you guys get better version of the BOZ-101EC which is given to you guys because its the German TT.
As for PGMs, you have the exact same about of HOSBOs which are smaller, have no trail, and can be faster if you arent dumb and launch them right.
As for brimstones this is absolutely laughable, gaijin gave you them just because its the German TT, despite Germany never even touching them regarding Tornados.
that’s a real point here
most of us want a good modeled EF-2000. We need hud fixes, FM fixes, BOL fixes and so on…
When we attack each other with this and that, it doesn’t bring us forwards.
When we still start acting like children, we will have a bad plane in the end.
What could also happen would be german mk1 radar is fine (because isn’t to overpowered) and the mk2 will be gaijined with “it’s a clear marketing lie” and then some EF-2000s in the game will be bad and some will be good.
We don’t know the real capabilites for the mk0, mk1 and mk2. that are just claims of the manufacture at all. for me it’s ok when all radar have different advantages but gaijin will no model it correctly, so thats why all AESA Radars should be the same like before. also that we get the mk2 that isn’t finished developed yet.
have a nice evening / night
Not exactly a great point considering the UK and Italy are getting a radar thats not only not in service, but wont be in service until 2030 or beyond.
Ignoring things that are inconvenient to your point isnt exactly a great way to debate something imo.
You’re free to have your own opinion on the subject, but at this point we’re both arguing a point neither of us will really agree on.
Yeah, obviously the best option for all involved (including the general game community balance-wise) is the German players not getting screwed on the radar, and in the future, the brits and italians not getting screwed on AMK, but I wanted to give everyone choices and something to discuss.
Thank you for speaking about this
Me yes, But I will puplish it only when the Message exchange has ended
(No clue when that will be the case, hopefully withhin the next week)
Gaijin standard seems to flip flop constantly.
I’m aware I’ve been saying this over and over but there’s really no other way to say it. The Dev’s standard lost it’s meaning and it all comes down to what they feel like at the end of the day
The Ah-64E is not a single version with modifications done. So far there is currently 5 versions of the 64E
V6 is where JAGM integration fully began. V4.5 allowed V1s and V4s to be fully compatible with the JAGM. However neither the Taiwanese or Indonesian Apache has been upgraded to V4.5.
So unless the devs are going with this standard, I don’t see any other way V1 and V4s getting the JAGM:
The weird part is if these two helis can get the JAGM, so can all Apache platforms. So can other helis like the AHS, Israeli ah-64,etc.
But apparently that cannot happen?
You can read my response here:
It just feels like the devs pick and chose when to go with compatibility, historical accuracy or balance.
They aren’t technically compatible with the earlier ones most of the 64E export users have. And even on the newer ones, only US Army ones have any evidence of CIRCM integration
Just slap the same radar on all of them and be done with it. The idea that the 10 degrees extra FoV doesn’t matter is just as much an argument in favor of making it the same vs making it slightly worse.
There really isn’t any realism based argument to make. You don’t see people advocating for hard AoA limit, redoing lift/drag curves, etc that cause the plane to effectively be uncontested in maneuvers. AMK is a non-starter because every Eurofighter in the game already has the capabilities that AMK would provide.
And let’s be honest…most of y’all won’t be playing the Eurofighter after the first week that it drops because Rafale is still going to dog-walk it in every game mode.
If I really wanted to nitpick, the delta strakes are wrong :p
fixed
I don’t even have a Eurofighter and this seems illogical and obviously unbalanced. They both have the same weaponry and flight model, etc. afaik…why is there a discrepancy with their radar’s?
bruh I just checked in x-ray view, and all 3 Typhoon (AESA) have 200° x 200° search zone…what am I missing?
