I mean its really funny how they think both the EldE98 and IRIS-T SLM are equal and should be the same BR of 12.0, not to mention the other systems but lets just take these two as an example.
The SLM has 2 vehicles with 8 missiles which can be reloaded once with the ammo crate which gives us a total of 32 missiles for 1 player. To add to that the missiles are faster and have more range with datalink. Also a little thing is that every single vehicle has the ability to call in artillery which is a total of 3 arty strikes from 1 player.
Now the EldE 98 is a missile trolley with 4 missiles that can be reloaded once with the ammo crate giving us a total of 8 (already drastically lower amount) and the IRIS-T found on it is smaller, slower and has less range. The missile only has IOG so it cannot get any datalink updates on the target location in case it changes course while its flying. So essentially if you fire a missile without a solid IR lock youre basically telling it to go where the aircraft was seen last praying to God the plane actually keeps flying the predicted path and it locks on. Big L right there. Might as well not have the LOAL at all especially how buggy the TWS on the radar can be if the enemy is dipping in and out of cover and how slowly it updates/tracks leading to failure to even lock on a close flying target sometimes and the missile just goes nowhere close. The only saving grace it has is the smoke if you can even grind your way toward it with how little people even spawn CAS now and when they do youll just get your kill stolen by a better system. The only thing youll have an easy time killing is helicopters and drones.
So I dont really see how this even remotely worthy of the same BR as the SLM when the performances of both systems are day and night.
Now this poor performance might be also due to the recent missile bugs but I doubt that any of my missiles that were shot at any fixed wing jet aircraft ever had the energy to hit them 90% of the times.
So yeah if youre considering on grinding the EldE i suggest you dont cuz right now an ItO 90 or flakbus is better than that.
I don’t play the EldE 98 for performance
I play it for my Swedish pride and the ITO isn’t actually Swedish…
I WANT IT TO BE GOOD… It just has that problem with having the slowest missile, lowest ammo and lowest mobility- amongst sams in the BR. I don’t want it to go down in BR, I want it to work!
I want it to be a cheap missile slinger and if they gave me more ammo i would absolutely adore it.
If the IRIS-T SLM gets 32 missiles then the EldE 98 should too!
The TWS can get the tracking wrong about 2-3 times before it has a steady lock. It can’t intercept most missiles and just misses them entirely- I don’t even try to intercept missiles cause they’ll just miss.
I had made a post arguing that the EldE 98 should get 16++ missiles too but it kind of stalled out and honestly I wish some of the moderators should see this post and bring it to light. It’s a small change that could vastly make the vehicle more worth it!
No weapon changes, no mobility buff, no change in BR… Just. More. AMMO…
32 missiles sounds like a lot of fun though, kind of wish it had that. Considering it is a crane loaded vehicle it could have an undefined amount of reloads, nothing historical to back that up! Wherever the EldE 98 goes it just has the same supplychain as the fighterjets.
Same here, right now having such a mid missile with such a low ammo count and long reload can’t manage any great results to begin with.
If they think multi vehicle SPAA can get 2 launchers with each one getting an ammo crate then why shouldn’t the normal SPAA vehicles be compensated with additional ammo in the boxes too?
I’d also want just a simple change in ammo count and maybe a more reliable TWS. If thats too much to ask for then idk
some games the EldE 98 works really well in toptier but I have to be very very careful to inspect the TWS lock when I launch. Basically distributing 8 missiles in the span of 15 minutes-.
Sometimes a cap is available and I can be a bit more bold with my launches-
But just imagine 32 missiles what it could do for the longevity of a battle.
I agree with most of this, but 11.3 or less is deranged.
11.7 could be fair, but really all the top tier need to be decompressed and moved up.
The german IRIS-T isnt a simple 0.7 above the TOR, but the Elde is only a bit better than it.