The easiest fix to the Challenger 2 (OES)

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/G4fTz108tdYo
i couldnt find the thing again for the mantlet but heres a bug report explaining it well
also the ufp protection would be around 550mm KE protection so i was wrong there but still

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550mm would be a lot less usable than ~580mm, but it would allow you to tank 3BM60 and other ~570mm pen darts when angled found at 11.0 ~ 12.7.

yeah also the ufp model im pretty sure is wrong aswell it should be more angled not that that would mean much but yk every little helps

Community Bug Reporting System i did find this bug report which from what i read makes the ufp 550mm and a 50mm (87mm KE) add on plate

Do you know if the ~550mm calculation takes the supposed incorrect UFP into account?

wdym?

A more angled UFP would increase effective thickness.
So does the 550mm calculation include the fact that it’s suppose to be more angled?

If it does then the supposed wrong angle of UFP wouldn’t change much other than possibly ricocheting rounds a little bit more often.

How much would the 50mm add-on weigh?

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/kOtJ2XcRIwvF
the model incorrection was just me being stupid i though i read it somewhere mb but the black night specifically is supposed to have even more ufp armour

Ah okay.

a small 50mm plate i doubt would add that much considering its weight ingame is correct and the armour is not it probably wouldnt change

if im being honest the challengers armour needs a complete overhaul because its a mess at the moment

Probably 1t - 1.5t
Not a huge increase tbh.
Definitely worth it if it means being able to stop 600-630mm pen APFSDS, especially when angled.

It’s already pretty good but an overhaul would be nice.

The 12.7 Challengers are way too overtiered to be honest, but an improvement to their armour may help them quite a bit.

the ready rack is also far to small sitting at 4 rounds instead of 28.

Where would the 28 rounds sit as a first-stage?

ammunition in the back of the turret should be considered first stage

There’s no charge + warhead in the back of the hull.
Only warheads.

Do you mean the back of the hull charges + back of turret warheads / front of the turret charges + back of turret warheads?

think so but im horrible at explaining stuff id just look at the various bug reports on the cr2

Hmmm okay.