The Dystopian Nighmare of Playing the F4E/Kurnass

Not the R-60MK it has a slightly higher flare resistance. It also seems to relock a lot. But it is due to the fact that people keep there engines on and this missle is so sensitive to heat.

Okay you’re baiting if you’re trying to say you have a higher success rate against magic II also just tested the F4 against the Mig-23 in a rate fight and wow the F4 shits on it so hard its a joke didn’t realise actually how bad they fucked the flight model but then again gaijin only knows how to increase drag and thats it

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TBF unless you fly the F5’s like a rat in an air (me). Those dogfights are few and far between.

No it doesn’t they’re a complete 1 to 1 in the files there isnt a single difference between the R-60M and R-60MK

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I was talking about the first R-60 vs the M/MK

12.0 isnt 13.7 you can still do WVR

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F-4E is an amazing plane it’s fine where it is. I don’t directly have the American one, but I have the F-4EJ which is at the same BR, without Agile Eagle, and without 7E2. The F-4E is a fun plane to play, and it perfectly fine. It is still possible to easily get 5+ kills per game.

Not baiting, just personal experience.

Nobody here is talking about the base R-60 why did you bring it up

Yeah thats a lie unless you’re purposefully flying into headdons and forgetting to flare

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But it is still not every game. Most of the time it come down to the missiles.

If you’re incapable of notching, going cold or multipathing then sure but thats a skill issue and not a reason

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The radar was made so MTI only works is a dive, putting it at the F-4E’s level at best.

When above the target.*
Fixed it for you.

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Search only works if the nose is below the horizon line- ie in a dive. While it can track targets below, you need to achieve and maintain a lock to do so. Additionally, the opponent being lower means you are higher- silhouetted against the sky and receiving no multipath protection.

You realize the Kurnass is the best 11.3 F-4E in the game right? (Since it gets Aim-9Gs over Aim-9Js). I’ve also heard from friends that it’s in a really good spot right now after the BR changes.

(Also in regards to the MiG-23MLs BR, its radar sucks quite a bit now, making the R-24R hard to use, so it got nerfed when the BR changes happened and didn’t go up. There was also the recent Flight model nerf it got as well…)

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Mfw decompression

Pretty much every F-4 except the E and Kurnass are overtiered compared to those two. Same with the MiG-23s. Gaijin’s 13.7 decompression failed to decompress the most compressed BR range of 11.3-12.0…

And if you manually point the radar down?

Not possible anymore, unless it’s a control I don’t know.