The double standard when talking about the Brimstone's capabilities

Ok, fine. Here you go, ignore the sound

Usual Pantsir shenanigans, that is, why bother aiming?

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Again, youre yet to prove that they are active radar homl,ing missiles to begin with even irl

If they are design to hit static targets there is no reason for them to track moving ones, a brige is not going to move any time soon, also it can also lack the resolution needed to track a tank.

Btw this is a similar argument as they used with the anti ship missiles, so it is not unprecedented or a groundless claim.

Thats why literally said relatively equivalent, the rocket guided one isnt really that fast, and we also have the glide bomb one in the files, if they are gps only in game, they would función like gps glide bombs

You’re playing against different S1 players than I am then. I’ve thrown a volley of 6(six) Spike-ERs at a S1 within 4km and he shot them all down. The only reason he died was because I shot a hellfire at him while he was dealing with the spikes, but I checked the replay and he did indeed take out all 6 spikes, even locked the hellfire right before it hit him.

Watched the trailer again and the decision to nerf Brimstone has really p*ssed me off.
F-15E with GBU-39 glide bombs about 20 of them!
Su-34 with Kh-38s…both of these weapon systems far surpass the range and performance the Brimstone will have.

But no Brimstone would break the game!

Tbh. I just always spawn the chopper. German CAS jets are trash. Tornado gets pantsired before you manage to turn this bus around to leave the 20m km spere. Sometimes you manage to dive down to the deck, but what then…crouching at tree top level wont give you any kills. The Phantom has two Mavericks, they might work…but hey…800+ spawn points for two shots … no thanks.

Already stated, you cant post imagery from the ongoing conflict or link it, thats the forum rules my guy.

You are aware that most NATO ASMs can target ground targets right? Such is a well touted feature of the Type 12, Harpoon, and modern Exocets.

“Relatively equivalent” Yeah no you are not fooling anyone here dude. There is no way you can spin a rocket boosted cruise missile with a 250kg warhead and a 120km range as equivalent to a glide bomb with a maximum range of 60km from LEO and a 93kg warhead as somehow equal.

93kg warhead, (probably smaller since the 93kg one is not the normally used warhead) these things will only be usable against stationary NPC targets since you will need a direct hit to do anything with them.

I’m still wondering how much range they will give the brimstone too, only the 40km brimstone II has laser guidance, but I would wager they will give it the brimstone I’s 20km range because reasons even though the brimstone I did not have SALH.

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So this opens the door for radar guided hellfires to come to the game.

I think its been touted as 15-20km which is great…The issue is when you need to hold its hand to the target and inevitably die to a Pantsir as you fly over the battlefield lasing this “hellfire”

Again we don’t know if they will give them the INS/GPS and Laser guidance

Its not possible to use any laser guided weapon vs. Pantsir spere of death. I tried everything. If you bank too hard, you lose the laser lock. The bomb will go nuts. Even the GBU24 with IOG feature. If you need to hold the lock all the time, its a death sentence.

Yeah, so the Harrier with AGM 65 will still be superior

GR.4 is also getting Paveway 4 not sure how much of an upgrade that is from Paveway 3 in game though

F if so it would be a ahistorical brimstone 1 then.

The model in game lacks the laser seeker on the nose as it has the standard steel nose cone.


The laser guidance kit has a rounded one so its GPS only.

Its going to just be a paveway but with the ability to be dropped like a GPS bomb.

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Good spot

Just give us an f18 or EF even without any A2G capability and i will still be happy

And I feel for you, I have no idea why Gaijin cant just man the fk up and give us both the Typhoon

So Germany should get F-18 before the US or the EFT before Britian and Italy?

So what i gathered from this is that alvis, as per usual, cant shut up (give him half the chance and he’l try and talk your ear off how the t55am is worse than the chieftain mk 3).

Brimstones with ir fnf would be balanced, no question about it as its just worse mavericks as theyll act like spikes and just hit centre mass and do nothing. Having that plus laser would let us guide it in last minute for specific targets that need to go so dont try and argue saying i want worse brimstones or something.

And let me reiterate. No one, NO ONE, wants the radar guidance. We want ir guidance otherwise it just makes brimstones a niche add as i doubt theyll be as effective as an f16 with 6 mavericks. Will they be usable? of course, their on a super sonic jet (pretty sure it cant fire at mach with them tho so thats another thing to consider) that can stay clear. However lasing one target on a time for a kill that isnt even guaranteed isnt optimal when i can easily get 6 kills in the same amount of time in my harrier while already re arming on the af.

The brimstones are a cool add but its moot when i can do more in my gr 7.

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And for the people who dont want artificial balancing (aka dont want to give something capabilities it never had). ARH guidance irl can be deffered via radar smoke which vehicles have irl, so they would act like how ir missiles work in game anyway with smoke blocking guidance and dos guiding it in to your last known location.

Another thing is, none of us want its ability to self guide or be able to be fired without a lock. You bring that up and thats on you and youll just sound stupid.

So, if anyone brings up radar guidance, the ability to fire without a lock or self acquisition. You have my personal permission to ridicule them for being an idiot whos just trying to stir the pot, lets keep this about the brimstones and how it should be in game and not about if the kh38/mavericks are over performing/underperforming.

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From what i have seen, there is no evidence that there was an radar on the wreckage… in fact the obly thing that it shows well, it is that there is nothing under the nose cone and the guidance unit is in the small module next to the wings and nothing shown seems to be cose a radar.

Thats not my point… gaijin where the ones that presented those cliams, so it is logical that they will apply the same standar in this case, specially when this is made to hit static targets…

Gameplaywise they are equivalent… they would fit is the exact same role, also, it isnt like you can even use all the range in game of either weapon in ground rb

Meanwhile the IS-7, Object-279 at Launch… Not to forget the BMP-2M and 2S38.