I don’t see the problem that let Britain have radar AGM first before anyone act
like radar brimstone gonna make Britain stomp everyone in their ways alone even Sweden+Russia can’t stop them
Correct, no one would be able to stop Britain’s CAS even more except by fighter.
Guaranteed frags is not fun on a CAS platform.
People are already upset at the non-guaranteed frags of KH-38 and AGM-65.
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Its not like they would be alone since the Grom has options for terminal seeker, from a radar or EO seeker, and we’ve already seen the SU-34 firing them in the trailer.
The Brimstone cant hold a candle to the Grom range wise to boot.
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Su-34 is a jet, not a radar-guided anti-tank AGM with access to thermal targeting pod slaving.
I doubt that Brits stomping Russia and Sweden in WT? It can only dream even with Brimstone radar guided i’m sure it not gonna make Britain beat the S out of Sweden and Russia combined
If so then why not? let Brits main have some fun wouldn’t hurt
Plus the only ways to counter SU-25 is jet anyway why it would matter?
Yes, we are getting the Tornado Gr4, yes we already had better CAS than Germany.
However.
Germany has better tanks, better SPAA, Better helis, even better light tanks/IFVs than Britain.
So Britain vs Germany in ground is still heavily in favour for Germany as they have the decent ground line-up
IOG matters because it goes to it’s last known position (close to it). This is really helpful if the target is disabled, slow, or stationary. These are huge benefits. where as the Maverick will lose lock and start going down. It is better to have it than none.
No one is denying the KH38 has the same flaws as the Maverick in terms of it’s IR sensor and that is not what I have claimed. Again if you read the past discussions we have, then you would’ve known it’s the flight characteristics that make the Mavericks struggle.
Lying straight to my face that you read the spreadsheet is something else man. Because if you did, you would’ve noticed that:
Booster Performance
Force Exerted:
- KH-38MT: The booster exerts a force of 57,500 N.
- AGM-65D: The booster exerts a force of 44,497 N.
Burn Time:
- KH-38MT: The booster burns for 2 seconds.
- AGM-65D: The booster burns for 0.5 seconds.
Raw Acceleration at Ignition:
- KH-38MT: 110.58 m/s².
- AGM-65D: 196.2 m/s².
Specific Impulse:
- KH-38MT: 234.45 seconds.
- AGM-65D: 184.61 seconds.
ΔV of Booster:
- KH-38MT: 232.52 m/s.
- AGM-65D: 100.86 m/s.
Sustainer Performance
Force Exerted:
- KH-38MT: 25,875 N.
- AGM-65D: 8,899 N.
Burn Time:
- KH-38MT: 8 seconds.
- AGM-65D: 3.5 seconds.
Specific Impulse:
- KH-38MT: 175.84 seconds.
- AGM-65D: 184.62 seconds.
ΔV of Sustainer:
- KH-38MT: 508.53 m/s.
- AGM-65D: 151.36 m/s.
You’ll probaby not read that so let me explain in simple terms. The KH38 accelerates significantly faster and maintains that speed much longer than the maverick which leads to a higher total speed. this is what makes the KH38 deadly
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Do you have any source tho? Because from all we know the one in the trailer was just gps guided
TBH AGM-65D is some 1980+ tech it shouldn’t be compared with 2010 tech like Kh-38 at the begin with it almost three decades gaps
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The document that HondaCivici posted which cant be posted here because you know why.
Germany doesn’t have better helis.
They have a bit better MBTs, better SPAA which I don’t run in any lineups to begin with, and slightly better light tanks.
They’ll have weaker CAS, and already have weaker helis.
As much as I understand PARS’ threat, Mokopa is far more portent when used correctly.
@HondaCivici
If IOG mattered why does no one cite it for AGM-114 Hellfire despite IOG being identical?
It doesn’t.
And those paper stats still prove all my statements correct that KH-38 is more powerful… and it doesn’t matter since both are more powerful than SPAA range, and both have the same exact flaws against tanks.
They have PARS we have Hellfires. FnF beats laser guided everytime
They have 3 MBTs that outclass anything we have to offer in temrs of mobility, firepower and protection. Leopard 2A7V should be 12.7/13.0 if the CR2BN/2E are to be left at 12.0.
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Hah i’m really surprised that you correct about this one
PARS3 is garbage overall only thing that had over other is being FnF
Yep that’s it
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If damage are better then yes
And he talking about South African premium (which tbh it better than AH MK1 itself at lower BR)
But yes Challenger2 are not leopard level not even close
I think if you have to spend £60 to have a “better” heli. Its a mute argument anyway.
I know PARS are a buggy mess, but jsut the ability to pop up above a hill, fire off 1+ PARS and then hide again just trumps having to sit and hover for 1 minute waiting for the Hellfire to hit (not even necessarily kill) and there is only so much evasive maneuvering you can do.
Would not line up with the wreckage, maybe for the export versions but not these ones being fired today.
Reminder as well there is more than 1 Grom-E1 make that exists.
Thinking about this further as well, regardless of the terminal seeker, this is still a missile with 120km range, you can hit targets from airfield to airfield, why is nobody else getting such weapons, there are a myraid of NATO T-LAMs that exist and dont have any terminal homing but only russia gets the benefit of a AGM that has more 20km max range?
Yeah i agree with this but only top heli i had for Brits is AH MK1 I don’t buy South African premium because I don’t feel it necessary (plus i like it starstreak best tool hunting Pantsir)
Yeah. Maybe with the GR4 i’ll start playing more GRB, but between how bad out tanks are and the nerfed state of Brimstones. I’ll probably just stick to ASB like I normally do these days anyway. But If I do start playing more GRB then it would be nice if the Apache was better with FnF AGMs as well. But as that is never going to be added because “balance” i’ll just need to master using the Hellfires and Starstreaks on the Apache
We have Mokopa on Rooivalk, and possible Superhind next update, which is better than both from my analysis and experience in the case of 114 vs Mokopa.
Once you’ve fragged a few enemies through smoke using laser AGMs, it gets both funny and sad.
The only thing PARS3 has going for it is F&F, which SPIKEs do better.
I find Challenger 2s more than playable personally, they’re just not speedy lolpen machines.
Armor would matter more if I didn’t play with the onion layers in mind at all times.