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That’s generally how getting things to change works

The important thing is that the changes end up being good compromises

Which it never is. Always ends up favouring the masses less familiar with the topic at hand, as they’re louder and more numerous.

APHE fix, as an example.

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Yup, that’s the sad reality, most of the time

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I just had a match against 5 or 6 MiG-25s, man that’s gotta be the dumbest matchup I’ve had in a long time, literally nothing you can do to catch them

Yeah, probably I’m just crazy, how can a person demand RoF increase?
It’s absolutely fine that some ships have theoretical values, some stress test at fixed cannon angle values and a few with practical values, taking into account cannons traverse to a loading angle.
And all of them are fighting in same battles, sounds absolutely fine, balanced as all things should be👍

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Much like dragons, they can be smited through their own greed.

Yeah nah, not when there are six of them, it’s stupid enough to have to deal with one of them that’s just constantly running away

I knew the MiG-25 would end up being a dumb addition and it would end up like this, but of course it had to be added

It is not a dumb addition 😾

We should acquire mig 31 alongside it. We should get all the interceptors.

I’m not against any of those planes, what I am against is adding them with weapons that make them have to sit at bad BRs

in all fairness the MiG-25PD is one of the best MiG-25 for game addition and the R-40RD/TD is about as good as it gets for the MiG-25’s

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Would have been a worse experience for all involved if it carried worse.

Oh, that’s the best MiG-25 that could have been added? In that case, I’ll repeat myself, it’s a stupid addition.

It really isn’t. It exhibits the same behaviour as a myriad number of f104s, and we don’t see cries to have them removed.

The game modes being focused on the areas they’re focused on are the primary cause of friction with this aircraft, not the plane itself.

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Hey @Smin1080p_WT, so recently Gaijin has decided to add the Greek subtree to Israel and introduce two Soviet SPAAs to fill a gap between the Drakon (Improved Chaparral) and SPYDER AIO. However, the HVSD/ADAMS, which is an Israeli-American prototype, had existed the entire time and was even passed for the devs a few years ago, and yet Gaijin ignored it completly. In the suggestion I’ve written for it I even specified a specific image which showed a mockup of it and how it is clearly different from the rest of the images who showcased the actual prototype. Can you give an explanation about this decision?

Also, the MIM-72E and MIM-72G SAMs of the Improved Chaparral had been missing their smokeless rocket motors for nearly two years now, despite them originally releasing with them and numerous bug reports being made about the matter. Can we get an updage about the bug that causes the issue with these missile?

Thank you for your time.

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Hey

The addition of new sub trees has nothing to do with preventing possible domestic vehicles. As was the case for Britain, which received both the Indian OSA and Strella, but still received the Stormer AD and Rapier around the same BRs, its not a case of one or the other.

Simply we are introducing Greece as a nation to the game and a sub tree to Israel, and these are two SPAAS the tree as a whole can benefit from.

If you can link the report in question, we can see if there is any updates to provide.

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https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/PW8tAm7AKXr7

One of the more popular bug reports. Made by @F-16D_Barak_II and supported by 189 players. It was accepted, then closed with no further update. It is 2 years old or possibly even older.

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This report is currently still open. It has been nudged.

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Well yeah, if the game was in a better state, the plane wouldn’t be an issue.

I don’t want it removed either way, I’m just extremely frustrated because I generally like the BR 10-12 area and they create the same issue that F-104s create at lower BRs.

This all goes back to Gaijins extremely short-sighted decision to nerf ticket drain to the point where a team might not be able to end the game by ground-pounding.

In the state that the game was (and still is) at the time of introduction of the plane, the plane was (and is) a stupid addition.

I can see the Su-15 or MiG-31 (or whatever other interceptor) being fine thanks to their respective specs. The MiG-31 would sit at a higher BR, the MiG-25s ancestors are slower and would meet planes with very competitive top speeds.

I’m looking forward to the Su-15 and others, I wouldn’t mind the MiG-31, but the MiG-25 shouldn’t have been added during this state of WT.

Either way, Aerial Warfare can’t come soon enough to deal with this and many other problems!

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Just to be clear, I consider the F-117 to be stupid as well, but for its own reasons and the way the introduced the F-14 was even stupider

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if you have sources make a bug report

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its not its a 1977 tomcat of the A models which is way newer than the 1970 version with AIM-7E2 and AIM-9J it also has lost some cool features like its original IRST that could guide the sparrows

the only reason i could think of to call it early is that its a A model but by that logic youd call the F15A and F16A early models so no clue

So theres a 12.0 option then.