The close-range rudder effect and angle of attack of the AIM-120A&B air-to-air missiles should be strengthened

maybe check what you said

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Maybe stop complaining about a missile that’s already the meta and get good?

the 120 isnt the meta
the MICA is the current meta
the new C-5 isnt very meta either

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The Mica has literally never been the meta, that is an absolutely awful take. It can barely match the derby in range due to its stupidly high drag. If you’re getting close enough to Rafale’s where their MICAs are going to stomp you, then that’s on you, stay high and stay fast

are you serious man?

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Have you been living under a rock or have you just been ignoring aaaallll of the complaints about the MICA’s lackluster range on the forums, or even on YouTube? XD

The AMRAAM is still the king of BVR, it will continue to be that way unless Gaijin decides to unnerf half the missiles in the game like the AAM-4, PL-12, MiCA etc

If that’s the case, would you gently explain us how you outperformed the EF with so good aim-120s ‘if you know what you’re doing’ in KDR with your chinese and ‘out of meta’ Mirage?

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yeah because gaijin wont fix it
i know that MICA still need it bug fixes but then Derby 80km is still statcard range
you shouldnt just take statcard range seriously

AMRAAM isnt even BVR king smh.
its king for you because you fly straight and ignoring RWR beep beep beep and die so u assumed its king of BVR

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Because people decided to get close? Not exactly hard to figure out… if you haven’t got experience with both missiles then why are you arguing?

The fact that I’ve played these nations and actually experienced how these missiles perform, kinda says everything. The Mica has literally never matched the Aim-120 in range, not unless Gaijin fixes the TVC issue.

Please point out where I brought up the statcard range.

You better get to check my profile if your best guess is betting that i don’t have experience with MICAs.

You’re just overpraising the AIM-120s on impractical scenarios that, given your performance, you’ve found significantly less than in the Mirage.

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you say MICA cant match Derby range
Derby “range” is 80km which is statcard range
Derby realistic range realistically is only 50km ish
which is the same range as MICA, but then gaijin put a limit on MICA range so it automatically self destruct past 50.1km

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If you’re saying that flying at 30,000 feet at 1000mph launching Aim-120s at BVR ranges is impractical, then you literally have no idea what you’re talking about.

Again, where did I mention statcard range? You’re just interpreting what I’m saying incorrectly….

so WHAT are you saying then? because in this scenarios there is no way Derby has more range than MICA, if anything MICA got gatelock by gaijin so it cant go further than 50km

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And again an oversimplification of the 120s usage.

Guess that explains how you underperform significantly with it when compared to your Mirage w/MICAs.

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Probably the most brain dead thing I’ve seen in the forums to date, you see that I’ve got a 1.3ish KD in the Typhoon and you say I must be underperforming with Amraams xD

The fact that you just backed up my statement about the Mica being worse at range than the AMRAAM says a lot.

why does more range matter when most of the time u get a RWR ping and dive down to multipath anyways
range only matter when ur opponents is going 5k alt and doesnt notch dodge or multipathing
u cannot take max range or higher range seriously when everyone is flying as low as -1m alt and everyone is multipathing

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When compared to your so said out-of-meta MICAs, you are underperforming with the so OP 120s by a reasonable margin.

Mirage 2000 |74/141 = 1.905|
Typhoon |71/103 = 1.451|

You’re not fooling anyone here.

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