The close-range rudder effect and angle of attack of the AIM-120A&B air-to-air missiles should be strengthened

Since the AIM-120A missile was added to the game, multiple nerfs have resulted in very poor close-range performance. I originally thought that the addition of the new version of AIM-120C5 would improve this, but I didn’t expect that after yesterday’s test server update, the c5’s high-throw trajectory almost disappeared, and the full range overload did not exceed 15G. IMHO, the current AIM-120 missiles are completely unsuitable for the gaming environment of WT. Especially with the current version of the F-18 combined with the AIM-120, the two of them are as discordant as a couple on the verge of divorce. Also, I don’t understand that the new version of Rafale should be strengthened when the current version is so outstanding, which is very unfair to players of the same level in other countries. With the same BR in the case of completely unequal performance, is the new version of Rafale’s turkey hunting contest going on?

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  1. The AMRAAM (especially the early ones) aren’t even design-focused for close-range combat, use your sidewinders if you’re having such a hard time hitting targets.

  2. The 120A/B already pull 35Gs which is MORE than enough to kill manoeuvring targets even at close range, so why you’re complaining that it has “horrible performance” I have no idea. Unless you’re using your AMRAAMs in a dogfight (which you shouldn’t be doing anyways.) then your post makes zero sense.

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Have u ever use Aim-120a&b before?

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The overload shown on the data card and the actual overload during playback are completely different. Seeking the actual? It’s just a matter of selective restoration. Keep strengthening the gusts. Just let the gust players win with one click. I don’t know what you’re teasing about. I’d be happy to send AIM-9X as well.

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The -120-C5 introduced both a revised propulsion, and guidance section which as consequence moves the center of gravity closer to the center of lift of the control surfaces prior to launch making it less inherently stable by reducing the effective moment arm that the control surfaces have to act on to resist aerodynamic forces, which evens out as the motor fires due to propellant being ejected to create thrust.

And anyway if properly modeled it should have a form of the “English bias” maneuver that the Sparrow should, and the Igla does have implemented to rapidly zero out heading error for “high off bore” scenarios, outside the seeker’s gimbal limit.

see reference to “Prelaunch- guidance commands” in the following excerpt (section # .14, top right page)

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never seen an AIM-120 pulling more than 25ish Gs after the AOA changes + don’t trust statcards.

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Youre talking out of your ass. Amraam maneuveraibility nerf are completely for balance reason no real sources behind them.
Amd the amraam doesnt pull 35gs

Funnily enough I was just thinking about this today and was going to ask if you had seen anything about the AIM-120 using a similar English Bias system or not.

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My man if you’re gonna try and argue, you need to get a better translator, because you’re barely speaking English as it is.

Still more than enough to hit any shot if you’re using the AMRAAM correctly.

Doesn’t matter it still modeled incorrectly

actually in most tests 120 rarely even pull 30G manuver unlike MICA that frequently pull close
to 40G
the differences between MICA and 120 is that MICA actually can pull 50G, unlike AIM-120 that cant reach 30G
stat card wont matter, ingame actual performance does
like the AIM-7E never reach past 15G in close range
but then the DF 7E-2 pull almost 23G in one of my matches
thats what makes them different despite both saying 25G on statcard

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My guy you’re comparing apples to oranges here. The AIM-7E has like a 2 second delay before it even starts turning, and that’s after its motor has already stopped burning, so no shit it isn’t going to turn well. The amraam doesn’t suffer with any of these issues, and like I said if you’re using an AMRAAM where if you need all 30Gs of pull right then and there (such as a dogfight) you’re not using them correctly and should instead just use your AIM-9s.

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thats why u dont use statcard G pull
the MICA can instant turn and pull close to 50G to chase target that fly pass them, unlike the 120 that say 35G pull but cant even pull 30G consistently

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Maybe read the last part of my reply again, and you’ll see why I don’t even care that it isn’t pulling 30Gs, I get consistent kills with them, if you’re not, then that’s on you.

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maybe check what you said

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Maybe stop complaining about a missile that’s already the meta and get good?

the 120 isnt the meta
the MICA is the current meta
the new C-5 isnt very meta either

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The Mica has literally never been the meta, that is an absolutely awful take. It can barely match the derby in range due to its stupidly high drag. If you’re getting close enough to Rafale’s where their MICAs are going to stomp you, then that’s on you, stay high and stay fast

are you serious man?

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