The BMD-4 & BMD-4M should move up in Battle Rating

I really don’t understand why the BMD-4M doesn’t have the APDS-FS since it’s a 2015 version, while for example the BMD-4 event is from the initial versions, so it makes sense that it only has the APDS.
I also think that modern IFVs should be given more benefit when detecting enemies but should have their Br increased so they can fight with tanks of the same era, having larger maps so that IFVs have more flanking advantages.

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Yes, I agree with you mate. It is extremely annoying being in a unreactive early cold war vehicle just to get flanked by a hyper responsive IFV. Almost all IFV’s are undertiered imo

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I already mentioned it in another post, I find it more than pathetic that my Cheftain Mk 3 from the early 70s and a BMD-4M from 2017 are destroyed, and all because the developers, by restricting the size of the maps so much, allow themselves to face tanks from such distant eras.

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Its perfectly fine at 9.0

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It is definetly not fine at 9.0. I can tell without even looking at your account that you play ussr. Literaly every single good player i know says that its op. Now i gotta agree with you on one thing. It should not be the same br as the bmd4. But the bmd4 should be 9.3 either

I play every nation my dude. They’re both fine where they are.

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diabolical statement. bmp3 is NOT fine at 9.0. If you push it i can somewhat agree that bmd4 is balanced enough on 9.3. But zbd04 is identical to the bmd4. Only diffrence is it gets apfsds which is like 20mm more pen. Its 10.0. I just know you play the bmd4/bmp3 all day every day

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Now I get it

You have no idea what you’re talking about
literally identical

BMP-3 is nothing like BMD

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come on bro 4hp/ton for a whole 0.7 br increse ?

Its not. APFSDS with much better angle modifiers, and twice the ATGMs.

Tradeoff its heavier, but with more horsepower, for a bit less low gear acceleration. But with similar forward transmission gears, they reach similar speeds at higher gears. And the ATGM doesn’t quite pen as much.

All in all, both are fine where they are currently.

If the BMD-4M also had APFSDS it could move up near the ZBD04A, but without it, they’re fine at 9.3.

I played them yesterday afternoon for fun, first time for the year

I also play against them regularly in my UK, France, Germany, Japan, Israel, Sweden and Italy 8.7-9.3 lineups.

They don’t need to go up in BR

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Sorry i have been judgemental about u playing bmd all day like a no lifer thats on me. But my point about the zbd still stands. It has apfsds yes. But it is also 10.0 so no shit ofc its better . My main issue with the bmp3 also comes down to br compression like literaly 90% of all issues in war thunder. Zbd cant face leo1. Bmp3 will get to bully 10x inferior things every single game.

It sees the same vehicles as every other 9.0 in the game.

If you want decompression, ask for decompression. But that means every 9.0 moving up with it at the same time, not just the ones you personally dislike.

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well the bmp3 is by far THE best ifv 9.0 so it stomps even harder than the rest

Not really, its pretty comparable in effectiveness to the Type 89

The Type 89 is one of my favourite light vehicles ingame

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I mean the atgm on the bmp3 is WAY better than the 89. pretty sure 89 gets a better gun and reverse so id says its fine i guess. I dont have the 89 so dont quote me on this but the 89s missiles dont really fly straight at first do they ? Also the main advantage of the bmp3 is that it fights paper armor nato tanks

The Type 89 ATGM by itself is not as good, but you aren’t limited by the terrible BMP-3 reload rate. The BMP-3 one of the few IFV’s so far where the ATGM reload speed isn’t handwaved away.

Plus the Type 89 gun is much better.

They fly pretty straight now after the recent SACLOS tuning Gaijin did, they just have to guide inwards from the launchers to the gunsight.

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so what if it can’t survive a dart, it needs to be moved up.

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dude woke up from a year long slumber o talk to soybeaninhaler

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I’ve used to rate the rooikat mttd higher before it got moved up to 9.3, even my KD says the rooikat was a better killer with 3.6kd while BMP-3 at 2.5…

Bmp-3 is such a troll though you can do indirect fire with the HE and pop enemy through their turret dome without showing an inch of your vehicle hitbox lol

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