The BMD-4 & BMD-4M should move up in Battle Rating

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Both of these vehicles should recieve APFSDS, go up in Battle Rating, & be moved to Rank 7; to match the Chinese ZBD04A. Both BMD-4’s currently in game out perform the ZBD04A, and I’m not sure why they are a lower Battle Rating other than the fact they don’t recieve an APFSDS round which they use IRL. I’m surprised by the lack of input from anyone regarding this major issue, and I thus propose the following changes.

BMP-3 → from 9.0 to 9.3
BMD-4 → from 9.3 to 10.0, moved to Rank VII
BMD-4M → from 9.3 to 10.0, moved to Rank VII

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These are probably better ideas:
BMP-3 → from 9.0 to 9.3
BMD-4 → from 9.3 to 10.0, moved to Rank VII
BMD-4M → from 9.3 to 10.0, moved to Rank VII

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Probably because it’s not major and in the case of the BMP-3, not even an issue

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Zbd04 can survive 25mm dart, it’s happened to me in my freccia. Non of the Russian ifvs have this protection

I think they are fine as it is, never had a problem fighting them, they are in reality just missile slingers

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BMP-3 should rather be lowered in BR, because reloading like IS-3 is rather strange for a combat rating of 10.0

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damnnnn

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Yeah, I agree with this actually. Thanks for the positive feedback :)

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The mobility of the BMD’s is far greater than that on the ZBD04A, which I would take over occasionally bouncing a 25mm round.

*After numerous tests, the ZBD04A cannot survive 25mm APFSDS frontally until 2500m of engagement… Your claim seems to be unfactual.

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For my part, it’s perfect. I prefer the one with a historical balance, and when I play with my Chieftain from the early 1970s, it seems horrible to me that a 2015 BMD-4M kills me.

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10.3? Even if you gave it APFSDS it wouldn’t be 10.3, but instead 10.0. The TOW missile system is superior to the 4x gun launched ATGMs in munition count and flexibility.

Either way that’s remove the only good 9.3 Soviets have. The BMP-3 is barely a good 9.0 IFV and the barely part is the fact it has ATGMs, but they’re not necessarily as useful as even Type 89’s, and Type 89 has better APDS as well.

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Considering the BMP-3:

Has no armour
25s ATGM reload
82mm pen APDS (it sucks) with low RoF

It should stay 9.0

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I died to it, and its Russian, so it needs to go up to 10.0.

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They probably should, but only after bmd goes on -50%, i buy it and have my fun with this OP little vehicle.

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i see

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It’s funny, the vehicle is way too fast for its own good, you can’t simply drive without crashing into something in maps like North Holland or Iberian Castle.

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A large part of the tanks does resist the 25mm APDS, and most of the green area on the hull gets eaten by the transmission.

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Em toda a vida e em qualquer fase dela sempre terá aquele cara chato para estragar a diversão e atrapalhar os outros… Deixe como está a classificação. Quem não gosta, se adapte ou esqueça, mas não incomode a diversão das outra pessoas.

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If you move that slider to 2500m you would see the same image…

I’m sorry, but if you fail to penetrate a ZBD04A with 25mm APFSDS, it is a skill issue and nothing more.

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Not the point, most of the tank does resist apds, so what he said that a ZBD can survive the 25mm is accurate.

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Your own post proves that it isn’t immune to APFSDS, in fact, it literally shows how only the small portion of its UFP is immune; the same being so on the BMD-4…

by you showcasing this, you have proven my point that the BMD-4/4M is in fact onpar with the ZBD04A and thus they should receive a BR increased to justify they’re overperformance at BR 9.3