The mobility of the BMD’s is far greater than that on the ZBD04A, which I would take over occasionally bouncing a 25mm round.
*After numerous tests, the ZBD04A cannot survive 25mm APFSDS frontally until 2500m of engagement… Your claim seems to be unfactual.
For my part, it’s perfect. I prefer the one with a historical balance, and when I play with my Chieftain from the early 1970s, it seems horrible to me that a 2015 BMD-4M kills me.
10.3? Even if you gave it APFSDS it wouldn’t be 10.3, but instead 10.0. The TOW missile system is superior to the 4x gun launched ATGMs in munition count and flexibility.
Either way that’s remove the only good 9.3 Soviets have. The BMP-3 is barely a good 9.0 IFV and the barely part is the fact it has ATGMs, but they’re not necessarily as useful as even Type 89’s, and Type 89 has better APDS as well.
Considering the BMP-3:
Has no armour
25s ATGM reload
82mm pen APDS (it sucks) with low RoF
It should stay 9.0
I died to it, and its Russian, so it needs to go up to 10.0.
They probably should, but only after bmd goes on -50%, i buy it and have my fun with this OP little vehicle.
i see
It’s funny, the vehicle is way too fast for its own good, you can’t simply drive without crashing into something in maps like North Holland or Iberian Castle.
A large part of the tanks does resist the 25mm APDS, and most of the green area on the hull gets eaten by the transmission.
Em toda a vida e em qualquer fase dela sempre terá aquele cara chato para estragar a diversão e atrapalhar os outros… Deixe como está a classificação. Quem não gosta, se adapte ou esqueça, mas não incomode a diversão das outra pessoas.
If you move that slider to 2500m you would see the same image…
I’m sorry, but if you fail to penetrate a ZBD04A with 25mm APFSDS, it is a skill issue and nothing more.
Not the point, most of the tank does resist apds, so what he said that a ZBD can survive the 25mm is accurate.
Your own post proves that it isn’t immune to APFSDS, in fact, it literally shows how only the small portion of its UFP is immune; the same being so on the BMD-4…
by you showcasing this, you have proven my point that the BMD-4/4M is in fact onpar with the ZBD04A and thus they should receive a BR increased to justify they’re overperformance at BR 9.3
He didnt say that it is immune he said that the “Zbd04 can survive 25mm dart”, which is true as around 75% of the tank does resist the 25mm as the areas that hit the transmission are survivable shots.
It isnt really an “small” portion, the hull of this is pretty large and the bmd isnt the same in this regards as no part of the tank actually resist the 25mm apfsds, in fact you can pen the bmd 4 with a .50cal at short range…
It isnt, you keep having the apfsds, twice as many missiles far better protection and the LWS, with the apfsds it would be on par as you would only trade the mobility for the protection but as it is now it isnt on par.
I am pretty sure that this is on topic as im talking about the BMD4…
The BMD-4M can get APFSDS and move up. The others don’t need to.
Still good to have some 9.0/9.3 lineup IFV’s and not move them all up.
There’s a number of other later mod BMP-3 variants that can be added with APFSDS
I really don’t understand why the BMD-4M doesn’t have the APDS-FS since it’s a 2015 version, while for example the BMD-4 event is from the initial versions, so it makes sense that it only has the APDS.
I also think that modern IFVs should be given more benefit when detecting enemies but should have their Br increased so they can fight with tanks of the same era, having larger maps so that IFVs have more flanking advantages.
Yes, I agree with you mate. It is extremely annoying being in a unreactive early cold war vehicle just to get flanked by a hyper responsive IFV. Almost all IFV’s are undertiered imo
I already mentioned it in another post, I find it more than pathetic that my Cheftain Mk 3 from the early 70s and a BMD-4M from 2017 are destroyed, and all because the developers, by restricting the size of the maps so much, allow themselves to face tanks from such distant eras.
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Its perfectly fine at 9.0
