i wouldnt be here if i didnt play it. a shame a tech mod, even one so hated as you, canot fathom that a person could not know but want to learn
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Stop strawmanning, I am well aware most soviet tanks don’t have the stabilizer speed as vertical aiming.
We agree then, however, are you not capable of accepting the bug report and forwarding it to devs? You are a CM no? You can accept the linked report to make the devs have consistent use of stabilization speed.
I think everyone knows, that a lot of top tier tanks have unrealistic aiming speeds.
The only person who is saying that this injustice only applies to the Oplot is in your head. As I said, stop strawmanning. No one has said that this only applies to Oplot. Oplot is being talked about because this is a thread about the Oplot, and comparing it to BVM makes sense cause these are very similar vehicles. That’s it.
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Since gaijin decided to nerf nato shells years back it’s the most realistic t series as of rn
The report you sent literally says “underestimated for the Oplot, overestimated for the T-80BVM.”
No other tanks are mentioned.
So don’t say “nobody ever meant that.”
I don’t know why people pretend they mean something else.
Since the Oplot’s addition, many have written about the vertical aiming speed, claiming it’s unfair. However, no one has ever mentioned other vehicles with a similar stabilizer, and instead, tanks with the Sosna-U have been singled out as an example of unfairness, even though the game doesn’t even limit aiming speed based on aiming speed.
The report doesn’t contain any information about the Oplot’s stabilization speed.
Furthermore, as I already mentioned, reports on vertical guidance speed are only accepted for vertical guidance speed, not stabilization.
No
I’ve discussed this issue with people many times since Oplot’s release. And for some reason, everyone keeps talking about BVM.
You’re making accusations instead of opening the wt wiki or the game and verifying the information.
As far as I remember, the Oplot’s vertical aiming speed has been equal to the T-80U’s since it was added to the game. And that’s been almost five months.
People usually double-check information before making any statements. Don’t you think?
Honestly, it doesn’t seem like you wanted to learn anything. You corrected the person, saying you knew it perfectly well. I don’t know why you’re distorting this.
ive seen bvm and 90ms vert and thats why i said what i said.
i havent been hell bent on an incorrect stance and accepted what was wrong
words never uttered
And why did you decide that this is too high for them?
a russian friend showed me they were
Excellent source. He’s never wrong.
seems to know something you obv dont.
The evidence base of “my friend/brother/mom/grandmother told me that tank X doesn’t meet the specifications” frankly doesn’t hold up to scrutiny.
That doesn’t sound like critical thinking.
i am aware. thats why id prefer to let this matter die down thank you very much
I think it is still better evidence than some mysterious calculations that turn 112mm into 190mm don’t you think?
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In the game, no tank has a vertical aiming speed limited by the sight’s aiming speed. There are no such rules in the game as a whole. Either it will apply to all tanks in the game, or to none.
Most likely, the limitations of other MBT sights are also much lower than the current speeds.
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There are a lot of fixes to vehicles in the dev server, can someone check if the Oplot received any changes?
No
Sadge
That explains everything…
The plate isn’t missing after all; they just gave it a sad, miserable x0.45 multiplier…
With its proper RHA multiplier, the UFP would go from 580mm KE to around 620; enough to at least be on par with T-80U’s armor instead of being worse…
Unfortunately, it will be impossible to prove that this plate is in fact not made out of tinfoil, so I guess this is it.
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We can’t expect to hear from ukraine anytime soon, even years after the war is over. We will need to wait for thailand to release some sort of info, but they have no incentive since they bought the export oplot so i guess never lol