The BM Oplot-T Is... Concerning (And Now The Oplot-M)

So I take it you only hang out on the forums? Have you ever played the game?

It doesn’t. There are specific data points for them at 40/40 (2Е58).
Just like for the Leopard, Abrams etc.

How convenient it is to forget everything except some. And forget that for the vast majority of Soviet tanks, the speed is also set at 3.5-4.4.


It’s really not very fair that some tanks have their vertical aiming speed adjusted based on stabilization speed, while others have it adjusted based on aiming speed.

Your untrained mind might be surprised, but this affects far more Soviet vehicles than anyone else (dozens of vehicles with 2E26, 2E28, and 2E42 guns).

The report you sent doesn’t even mention the stabilization speed of the 2E42M, and reports about adjusting the speed based on stabilization speed are not accepted. I didn’t come up with these rules.

Moreover, I actively advocate for standardizing the aiming speed of all main battle tanks. However, you can’t even imagine how many vehicles would be damaged.

If you want to address the issue of vertical aiming speed, please contact the CM for clarification. I’ve spent a lot of time advocating for this, as I believe aiming speed should be set to a uniform standard.

I’ll repeat myself. Absolutely everyone who demands this has no idea what it means for their tanks.


P.S. The Oplot literally uses the same vertical drive as the T-80U. So it’s completely absurd to say that the injustice only applies to the BM Oplot.

yep BVM Commander side is really easy to shot due to how the casting around the hatch is, also base armor under the ERA is pretty bad since it still has the old quartz core like on the T-72A and other tanks from the same time frame
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i wouldnt be here if i didnt play it. a shame a tech mod, even one so hated as you, canot fathom that a person could not know but want to learn

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Stop strawmanning, I am well aware most soviet tanks don’t have the stabilizer speed as vertical aiming.

We agree then, however, are you not capable of accepting the bug report and forwarding it to devs? You are a CM no? You can accept the linked report to make the devs have consistent use of stabilization speed.

I think everyone knows, that a lot of top tier tanks have unrealistic aiming speeds.

The only person who is saying that this injustice only applies to the Oplot is in your head. As I said, stop strawmanning. No one has said that this only applies to Oplot. Oplot is being talked about because this is a thread about the Oplot, and comparing it to BVM makes sense cause these are very similar vehicles. That’s it.

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Since gaijin decided to nerf nato shells years back it’s the most realistic t series as of rn

The report you sent literally says “underestimated for the Oplot, overestimated for the T-80BVM.”

No other tanks are mentioned.

So don’t say “nobody ever meant that.”

I don’t know why people pretend they mean something else.

Since the Oplot’s addition, many have written about the vertical aiming speed, claiming it’s unfair. However, no one has ever mentioned other vehicles with a similar stabilizer, and instead, tanks with the Sosna-U have been singled out as an example of unfairness, even though the game doesn’t even limit aiming speed based on aiming speed.

The report doesn’t contain any information about the Oplot’s stabilization speed.

Furthermore, as I already mentioned, reports on vertical guidance speed are only accepted for vertical guidance speed, not stabilization.

No

I’ve discussed this issue with people many times since Oplot’s release. And for some reason, everyone keeps talking about BVM.

You’re making accusations instead of opening the wt wiki or the game and verifying the information.

As far as I remember, the Oplot’s vertical aiming speed has been equal to the T-80U’s since it was added to the game. And that’s been almost five months.

People usually double-check information before making any statements. Don’t you think?

Honestly, it doesn’t seem like you wanted to learn anything. You corrected the person, saying you knew it perfectly well. I don’t know why you’re distorting this.

ive seen bvm and 90ms vert and thats why i said what i said.
i havent been hell bent on an incorrect stance and accepted what was wrong

words never uttered

And why did you decide that this is too high for them?

a russian friend showed me they were

Excellent source. He’s never wrong.

seems to know something you obv dont.

The evidence base of “my friend/brother/mom/grandmother told me that tank X doesn’t meet the specifications” frankly doesn’t hold up to scrutiny.

That doesn’t sound like critical thinking.

i am aware. thats why id prefer to let this matter die down thank you very much

I think it is still better evidence than some mysterious calculations that turn 112mm into 190mm don’t you think?

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https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/5dFPStkyWEc2

In the game, no tank has a vertical aiming speed limited by the sight’s aiming speed. There are no such rules in the game as a whole. Either it will apply to all tanks in the game, or to none.

Most likely, the limitations of other MBT sights are also much lower than the current speeds.

There are a lot of fixes to vehicles in the dev server, can someone check if the Oplot received any changes?

No