Thats why it could go down to 5.7
Other than penetration (that is wonky and bad damage after pen) it has nothing to offer
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No… that’s why it has to stay 6.0.
Otherwise you might as well make Tiger E 5.7 again along with down-tiering other heavies.
Black Prince has a lol-pen round easily capable of one-shotting most tanks it comes across.
Except that lol pen round likes to bounce off or do no damage after pen
Vehicles like dicker max and waffentrager lolpen too (with great post pen) so what?
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It actually is at “5.7” now. Remember when Gaijin in one of the decompression waves moved a lot of vehicles one BR step up, from 5.7 to 6.0, 5.3 to 5.7, etc? :)
Its 6.0
That logic sucks.
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Bounces are aim issues.
No damage is also an aim issue.
Weird of your post to imply that Dicker Max is a 6.0 heavy tank.
If you’re one step ahead and everything below you moves one step up, are you still one step ahead?
I didnt make such a claim?
Not everything moved.
Meant to type imply.
Pretty much all the “bad boys” did. The rest are not much of an concern to the BP. There’s no reason to move it down. It’s OK where it is now…
No, its not. It suffers at 6.0
The only thing it has going for it is APDS and it doesnt justify the 6.0 br
Swedes got a great apds at 1.0 which could easily be much higher and that I actually used at 10.0 and killed quite a few vehicles
Black prince is just too slow while also being very vulnerable
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After nearly 1900 battles over many years in this vehicle I dare to say it’s fine where it is now…
actual skill issue. 17pdr APDS is pretty damn good if you’re a good shot, its not a lazy cheap kill like APHE
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Might I suggest moving this to the machinery of war section? So it doesn’t get locked for being in the wrong section
its iffy alot of the time these days, I can’t tell you how damn ANNOYING it is to fail to pen a T25 or Jumbo at point blank range only for them to punch right through the Mantlet and take your breach.
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I use the Centurion mk2 as my main tank until 7.7 I know 17pdr APDS has some problems but it is nowhere near as bad as you guys say it is.
The black prince is really just a Churchill with a thickened comet turret so you need to play it a bit less like a bullet sponge than the previous churchies, war thunder isn’t favourable to heavy tanks for the same reasons why the fell out of fashion in real life after all
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It’s 6BR for a reason
aka it takes far, far more skill to use and is far more prone to random episodes of low postpen. Even perfectly aimed shots will often take 2-3 hits to kill. Trying to argue that apds is even remotely comparable to APHE is laughable.
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I don’t need tips.
Ive played hundreds of battles in my BP, got 20 kill games in the thing, But it still is struggling, its too slow, the accuracy at range is just completely inadequate.
The armor not being modeled as the Proper Surfaced Hardened battleship grade steel it should be alone makes it struggle, the thing tanked MK8 shot to the face at Point blank during IRL testing.
All it needs is just a LITTLE help, Either bending the rules on the Paper tanks thing, and giving it the Meteor engine and Centurion Transmission that they planned to mount in it, OR Moving it down a bit.
Gaijin has stated before they don’t plan on fixing the armor to be the proper Surfaced Hardened steel that the British pioneered and made the Churchills IMMUNE to Tigers in the Desert, and carried on through the war. So it needs SOMETHING to help it out.