I dont understand how a tank that was 9.7 and worked perfectly fine there neither too op or too bad, the fact that it now at 10.0 contantly meets 2s38’s which is a light tank with gen 3 thermals, hunterkiller capabilities and a 57mm autocannon with over 200mm of penetration. And a MBT with under 400mm of pen gen 1 thermals and next to no armor at all can meet it, or the fact that it can face of the T90A with kontact 5 ERA, so i would say either make the tanks that is really op for their br (2S38, BMP2M for example) would get their BR rankings reworked or, lower the amx 40 to either 9.3 or 9.7 again. BC rn it’s next to unplayable in its current br, down tiers it doesnt really wreck through everything, so I would say that it should be a lower BR.
It’s french. That’s why.
2S38? Easy frag.
No tank in War Thunder has hunterkiller in-game.
Half of the 10.7s as mobile as AMX-40 have the same pen in exchange for better armor.
how to deal with it:
step 1 - click left mouse button
step 2 - ammunition exploded
and it does not matter in the slightest since you still shoot the same weakspots and kill them the same
unfortunately gaijin is really incompetent when it comes to french armor: Community Bug Reporting System
That’s what I hate. 9.7 France already felt a bit underwhelming when I was still playing it and now for no reason, it has to go to 10.0. Meanwhile the AMX-32 105 still doesn’t get the better reload, we still don’t have a VBCI with a 40mm cannon (Bushmaster is good, but not amazing) and our vehicles just trade any kind of armor for mobility that is barely better than other vehicles at the same BR while trading all the armor available (even autocannons are scary frontally even though I’m not supposed to be a goddamn light vehicle). If the AMX-40 at the very least got a better shell, atleast I could play in a glass cannon way. At the very least the Vextra got its well-deserved shell.
This game bases everything on how players are. So since highly skilled players use France and Britain, France and Britain are punished. That’s why Germany and America are hilariously undertiered: because 90% of the player base for them are… not as good.
exactly. the AMX40 for me is now gonna be a reserve for when I get the leclerc
Oh, and T-90A should be 11.0.
Mentioning T-90A doesn’t help Leo 2K, AMX-40, FV4030/3, Leopard 2AV… it just shows T-90A should be with its equals at 11.0.
I like the 10.0 France lineup myself. I’m actually going to get Vextra because of the changes made.
It does feel quite overtired, I just treat it as a horribly overtiered leopard 1 but man full up tiers are rough.
I don’t quite get why the amx-40 is at 10.0 and the leopard with the 120mm gun is at 9.3 though. They both have 120mm guns, they both have 1st generation thermals, they both have armour that is pretty much non-existent at their brs. I must be missing something as I just don’t get it.
I have to agree. I don’t see the point of BR bump, especially now because it sees 11.0. Not to mention they dragged another vehicle up for absolutely no reason. It was more than fine at 9.7. Both of them were.
The Leopard A1A1 with less mobility, even less armor, no 20mm coax.
If you have an argument on why Leo 1A5 et all, AMX32s, etc should be 9.7 instead, especially as drastically inferior things are 9.0 now… I’d love to hear that perspective.
The only valid argument here being the mobility. Both have armour that withstands no shots at all. At least the amx 40 has blowout panels for ammo. The 20mm is literally useless since HVAP is just shattering on everything.
Oh, wasn’t claiming that, lol. The leopards seem fine where they are tbh. Was just wondering why the dramatic br difference.
Don’t have access to the game at the moment, the armour difference doesn’t seem that dramatic but yeah, the amx-40 has a dramatically better engine. You over estimate the usefulness of the 20mm, lol. It shatters in a stiff breeze sadly.
The amx-40 seemed fine at 9.7 but I suppose in reality it doesn’t make a huge difference as there are hardly any 11.0 vehicles anyway.
A better round would be nice, though I don’t know if any actually existed.
Well here’s some perspective:
A round that performs >33% worse, no thermals, worse mobility sits 0.3 BR below AMX-32.
Such changes see 0.7 - 1.0 across the tech trees usually.
Not sure how your getting 33% from
And
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Oooh, you’re not talking about the L/44. What tank are you referring to?
French tanks are just discriminated against. Look at AMX-30 1972. The only advantage it has over t-44 100 is mobility and its 1 BR higher
T90A as well as th3 ztz99 II / III and mbt2000 should all really be 11.3.
The shir 2 should lose L23 as well technically as it was cancelled 4 years before l23A1 even went into service
Gotta admit its fun clubbing them in the ztz99s
People are quick to hate on French BRs because they’re use to them being OP.
You know what tank has garnered zero topics despite being over-BR’d? T-55AMD/AM1.
Now, is that because all other 9.0s should be 9.3 or is that because T-55AMD/AM1 should be 8.7 with its equals?
Everyone knows I love French vehicles.
I can set aside my bias and be like: “AMX-40’s equals are at least 10.0, it shouldn’t be 9.7.”
Just as long as AMX-32’s equals remain 9.3 I’ll say the same thing about them.
No one complained about KV-1E being moved up, or Vextra, or T-90A, and so forth.
I get the weaknesses of AMX-40, I used it when the RP requirements were 400,000 and it’s still not spaded, though it’s almost there finally.
I understand more armor and a slightly better turret traverse + marginally better round is seen at 10.7 [Leo 2A4].
A notably better round with similar armor is seen at 10.7 [Ariete P].
It appears someone has mellowed in their old age lol