you answered to a message which is a whole freaking year old, dont try to deny that
and the thread is dead since januar the 6th, there was a total of 3 messages. its deader then dead. it should be buried and never be touched again since it lost all relevance
it is just another french suffer mimimi thread. MBT 70 , Kpz-70, Leopard 2K all suffer under the same problem. its a balancing reason which you guys arent understanding and try to force it into a main role it isnt supposed to be.
Learn to play the vehicle in its main role and the 20mm as an auxilary weapon in the right situations, dont blame your skill issue on the rounds
how did you add “Balancing” to this lmao, if it fired APDS it should fire APDS, not/not just HVAP. You got a skill issue if you suffer even from HVAPs btw
I pick one statement which is 1 year ago to reply to, doesn’t mean that I reply to a post 1 year ago, this onlys means your statement I picked is so ridiculously wrong then becomes my target. This post is updated 24 days ago, you can’t deny it, except if you admit being blind.
And the reason asking for apds is right about balancing, is right about the fact that 20mm apcr is literally useless against ground vehicles, regardless of skills. Even If 20mm apds will make those carriers too op to stay at their br (actually the answer is no, considering T72M2 with that 30mm is just OK in game), then their br can be changed, So your excuse “for balance reason” is 100% invalid. You have just showed your bias to 20mm secondary guns, you just for your own unkown reasons are not willing to see 20mm guns work normally in game. That is based on your false imagination, not on facts.
u know what, wont even read that and further deal with yopur french suffer mimimi charade in attempt to revive this completly useless thread. u do you if it makes you happy crying about something which wont be adjusted cause u cant understand the reasoning behind it
this thread will die faster then anything again either way
Your behavior is really like a senseless baby, once you can’t prove anything by senseful debates, by reasons, you just cry and escape the reality life.
how about you prove first that the tanks actualy used those rounds with secondary or primary sources which is required for implementation, instead of your imaginative thoughts.
The Ops sad little website for naval gun characteristics sadly is completly irrelevant since its one not a secondary even and has nothing to do with the actual tanks and there in service use.
I dont see typhoons or tornados getting Pele-T instead of the PT round either
Your sophistry can be expanded to “prove these 20mm did shoot apcr in history”, then if you can’t, you need to absolutly demand gaijin to remove apcr. And to be fair, you need to check EVERY vehicle in game and do this to them all. If not, you will prove to have special hatred to 20mm guns, you are just biased.
I have proven your excuse “for balance reason” to be invalid, and the reason I support to add apds is exactly the balance, and the gameplay. I’m not like the other guy here, I do support selectively give suitable configurations to vehicles. The reason is simple: 20mm apcr is useless, doesn’t suit the gameplay that players should have.
the fact you guys dont understand that the 20mm is supposed to be an auxilary weapon for quick response against light vehicles or aircraft, best used against heli rushers or used to disable parts like barrels/ tracks etc. the 20mm isnt supposed to be a kill all solution for close quarter to take out other mbts.
Changing those rounds to like the ammo rounds of the wiesel 1a4 would result to massive br increases which you apparently dont understand, at those brs these vehicles would turn even more useless overall and you apparently not understanding that gajin wants to keep those vehicles at those brs for a reason since that is where they have the most optimal line ups
tldr the players dont understand the playstyle of it and use it wrong
You are so foolish of saying “20mm is only used against light vehicles, so apds shouldn’t be added”, you are meaning that 20mm apds is REALLY effective are eliminating mbts! This is quite a skill issue if you have trouble in winning a confront between a mbt and a 20mm gun. In fact, 20mm apds is just the minimum requirement of having menace to light armored vehicles. if 20mm apds can disable a light vehicle in 2 seconds, then it takes apcr at least 5 seconds, giving enough of enough time to react. 20mm apds can’t give menace some mbts’ 90° side at 100m! That’s all your own issue to feel 20mm apds is an effective weapon against mbts.
and once again the gepard is pretty much in every tree, nearly every nation has the same vehicle or even better ones to do that, the main factor is that those spaas dont get trough the front of mbts and need to flank to effectively deal with enemys.
This is not the case with the here talked about vehicles, since they can easily use their main cannons to deal with enemys frontaly . That you guys dont understand the basics is horrible.
Not to mention spaas not being armored
Man those spaa kill you even from the front, the falcon or the zsu 57 can do that too, which is BS if you ask me. The zsu 57 can basically fuck an m60 from the front from 300m away and with a few shots, does that make any sense? What a sad joke this game is. That’s why you see so many a*holes running around in spaa instead of using it against planes. Only noobs spawn a tank, the others spawn an anti air and use it against tanks.
buddy its a 57mm autocannon the hell you expecting???, that was a main caliber at one point for a reason. Do you not understand basics like those? in trade those vehicles are just super easy to kill
if you dont like the game stop crying and quit it , its as easy as that. But thats just crying in a high leaugue
