no you are wrong if you think the V8 analogy is remotely comparable to this
Look, I’ve rarely seen them wrong, mostly it’s a lack of sources, because, I repeat, comparing a naval missile with different objectives and different launches than another missile on its own doesn’t make sense.
It wasn’t the best, you’re right, but the point was to say that comparing two things that don’t make sense, trying to say that missile X does X because a completely different missile does Y, doesn’t make sense
They have the same exact motor so fuel state is the same, and they both can be launched at a pitched angle like the nasams does. Not sure what your talking about.
@CofCof the missile is about the same in size and shape, sharing the same exact motor with different guidance, if you really think the austalian navy is on something with their Mach 4+ number with the ESSM go take the complaint to them. if it was a completely different missile it wouldn’t share the exact same motor and lower design… same motor meaning same thrust, same burn time, same force output…
They do not have the same weight or shape.
1kg difference lmao
Source ?
Did you even bother reading the bug report?? In game the amraam-er is 279kg. The Australian navy lists the essm weight as 280kg.

if this does not look like the same shape to you, you may have to get your eyes checked… and the weight difference is pretty much negligible being 1kg… the entire lower control section and motor included is a commonality with the ESSM and AMRAAM-ER, the only difference is the guidance section
I seriously do not know why you people are still engaging with a very obvious troll.
This thread was about the fact that the ER has the kinematic performance of a crappy D AIM-120, which is wrong.
Yes, but are we assuming that Warthunder is correct? Technically, the missile is all wrong, but is the weight correct? Sources outside the game.


As you said yourself gaijin is rarely wrong they put the er at 279kg and according to the Australian navy the ESSM is 280kg
Wrong, I said that mods rarely make mistakes when passing information to the developers. based on the documents they receive objectively
ESSM have 39 kg warhead and Amraam-er have 11kg in game , and ?
On the actual topic, fun fact, the ER has only about 100 m/s more delta V than the R-77-1.
1123.29 vs 1290.21
War head is not the only thing in the nose of the missile.
you understand this includes the whole weight of the warhead and not just the tnteq of the explosive in it right?
that does not change the TOTAL MASS of the ENTIRE missile. and thus it doesn’t change anything… also the source of the ingame AMRAAM-ER weight is derived from from the ESSM, if not? you can provide us with a source because you know they’re definitely different missiles. so give us a source for the AMRAAM-ER weight differing yourself