The AMRAAM-ER is Intentionally Being Nerfed to Keep the AIM-120C-5 Nerfed

So the sensors of the essm is different but the range performance is being measured with the amraam-er

Pretty much

Afaik esse also has a ARh seeker in it’s latest version, it’s not the aim120c8 seeker however, so there’s still a difference.

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Almost everything got hit with “not enough info” lmao

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Battery time is not an issue, in game it only reaches about Mach 2.6, if it actually hit Mach 4+, it would easily reach 50km

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Literally nothing only thing that changes is seeker

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That’s nothing i’m personally aware of, i would recommend asking the Technical Moderators about that for clarity in that question.

What source?

According to Raytheon it uses the mk 143 mod 0 motor/bottom half of the ESSM which is stated by sources including the royal australian navy to be able to do speeds of Mach 4+ and range of 50km+
Raytheon produces both weapons and to cut cost they use the bottom half of the ESSM hell look at both of them they are exactly the same


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It can reach Mach 4 and can travel 50 km, that is, if the data is correct and disregarding the basic fact that one is naval with completely different launchers. Most likely, the AMRAAM-ER will reach something like Mach 3 and around 40 km if the target comes in a straight line directly towards the system. The Rim-162 also technically reaches 50G, and I don’t see you concerned about that. Learn to understand how it works: an anti-air missile from a static ground system will not be able to reach Mach 4 if it is the size of the system in question, according to the laws of physics. For example, the Buk system. LOOK AT THE SIZE OF THE MISSILE for it to reach and temporarily maintain its speed.

Quite ironic that they are shooting down ESSM motor reports when Raytheon outright posted this way back when.

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I guess techmods just cant read.

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Having the same engine does not mean it does the same thing: a V8 in a Ferrari reaches 300 km/h, while in a truck reaches 20 km/h.

Oh cool I guess you can’t read either then.

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Dawg what? Not only is the weight of the both the missiles very similar with a tiny weight difference, but saying a static launcher reduces the range because it’s static is stupid, the ESSM is launched from various naval ships which usually have a speed of around 30 knots (34.5 miles per hour or 55.5 Kilometers per hour). Not an aircraft going Mach 1. How would a static system reduce the range from 50km+ and speed of Mach 4+ to 40km and Mach 2.68

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The ESSM is almost static launch too. This is just blatantly wrong.

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The AMRAAM-ER uses the same engine derived from the ESSM, but does not use the full set of boosters or the same propulsion architecture as the naval ESSM.

also ESSM are often launched vertically or over the side, where it is functionally a static launch or worse due to extra maneuvers being needed to get on course to the target

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It depends. The ESSM may not be fired vertically, but it still has more boosters than the anti-air version.

The naval ESSM has no kick motor, but you knew that already didn’t you?

Lol

It has a motor to orient it after exiting the VLS and thats it, it adds no tangible delta V to the missile.

Any NASAMS fired AMRAAM-ERs will have the exact same delta V as the block 1 ESSM.

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Not true