ngl i thought the missile would be more maneuverable, its still cannot pull like at all 10km and under, and at low altitude thrust is so bad that the missile looses speed whilst maneuvearing extremely little
Yeah I agree. I think they need to entirely re-evaluate the thrust for sure. They also need to fix the lofting.
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with the very low thrust it has at low alts it makes no sense it lofts as little as it does
If we ever get accurate thrust Mk.60 in warthunder that extra thrust will help a ton even at low altitudes. To add onto what you said, the reason it doesn’t feel as maneuverable as it should is because it can’t force itself through the air. It’s essentially stalling itself out while still burning.
Yeah I think the devs need to be less gentle with the MBAM manuever and just make it rocket up like we see in real life footage. With the altitude based thrust we are seeing in real time how important it is.
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its crazy how the stats are technically so different, but the only real practical buff it got is that it has the all aspect capability somewhat gpull is still bad and the range is speed and range are nerfed in 90% of cases. ive got more kills with aim9h and aim9m than with aim54s so far
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aim9ms are great tho finally good missiles on the f14b, full aim9m loadout would probably be the best one lol
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Im very sorry that its all green but i have to show you this “buffed” aim54
i do not know why its green, but its fair to say the missile is still pathetically bad. first one never goes active second one is a train.
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8.4 g max pull at a top down target i shot when going at low supersonic speeds. the missile might as well be useless. doesnt even reach mach 3
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I am aware the missile travels only 72.5NM (134km not 116km). However it is launched from 110NMI (204km). That’s what is used to determine missile range. The graph when configured for 110NMI should show the missile traveled 72.5NMI.
I guess they are. That’s rather unintuitive.
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man what a massive disappointment, im probably taking a break for a bit this was the only thing i actually as exited for and nothing.
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Omg Aim-54C+ is horrible, I’m tired boss
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Idk I think its pretty good, just lacks range
Close range have good G-turn but too fat to track, long range is even worse than before
Can someone that knows check the drag ?
Because i don’t feel the results i’m seeing are much realistic, but it’s not that i know how it should be exactly.
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Did you Feed the slop?
- I have money
- Bought it through GJ coin so don’t need to use money
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I guess this is it for the phoenix i doubt we’re getting any more care put into the missile a shame really the kinematics were better pre patch, the missile was faster and more maneuverable.
hell its even simpler just static target at 133km and poof it does that no problem
mach 1.5 at 13.4km is 442m/s
put amraam there just for lolz
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You’re late buddy
Is there any chance we will see further changes to the Phoenix? Have been trying it out at very high altitudes (11-12km) in the Nuclear Thunder mode but it still doesn’t like going too fast. Even with manual lofting it just looses so much speed on targets at similar altitudes to me.
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