The AIM-54 Phoenix missile - Technology, History and Performance

yeah even at mach1.6 11km+ altitudes it just enough to reach mach4, then quickly losing speed once the burn time is over. The ECCM too weak to track.

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Maybe, I can think of a few things but half of it is not doable.

Gaijin must hand over this document to the playerbase. I’ve looked all morning and can’t find any hint of what this came from:
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It was used in response to this bugreport, as usual with no context.

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OK so… They modeled from Mk.47 data but, didn’t add low smoke motor?

That’s really bruh

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It may warrant a BR increase, though.

thats mod 0. what you were thinking about is mod.

i did the shot from this image in game to see what it would be like in game

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the expected result was 134.3km travelled distance and i got 138.5km, so i guess war thunder’s aim-54 is accurate for this shot (a difference of only 3.12% for distance travelled), i can’t check the maximum altitude the missile achieved in game. i made sure that the bot and me were flying in the correct speed and altitude.

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IIRC If you pause the replay and fly the free cam to the position of the missile and take a screenshot you should be able to extract the X, Y, Z co-ordinates of the camera from the screenshot metadata. It’s a bit of a convoluted method but it can be used to give a rough idea of how high the missile goes.

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that’s cool, i had no idea screenshots had all that info. the maximum altitude was around 29452m, it was supposed to reach around 31546m

Can the aim54c or aim54c+ reacquire during the SARH phase or during the ARH phase? Or both?

you mean target switching or? aim-54a can retarget a lost target and its nasty

Both really and I never experience a aim54 relocking on even if a jet pass in front of it in sarh mode idk about if it can or can’t in arh mode

I assume it should be performing the same as the aim7m when it come to re locking but most of the time the aim54 doesn’t even attempt it

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Once the AIM-54 is active it cannot re-aquire based upon host aircraft radar data as it has the line “can datalink reconnect” set to false.

Prior to doing so it can re-aquire the target like every other ARH in game as long as it is the same target.

It’s function is identical to every other ARH missile in game as none of them have that line set to true.

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Mk47 is the worst burner. It NEEDS the mk60. A quicker accelerating aim54 would fix most of the issues

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From my discussions with @k_stepanovich in the past, the way it (allegedly) works in the game is that even after going active, the missile can re-acquire the target through datalink, if the seeker loses the target in the notch but the launch aircraft’s radar can still track it.

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/ZSTO5XEmnNov

What “reconnectDatalink”, which is false by default and set to true in R-27 and AIM-7P configs, does is to allow the datalink updates to resume if the launch aircraft’s radar momentarily loses target but later re-acquires it.

I.e. with AIM-54 and other ARH missiles if you completely lose the TWS track file or STT lock, there won’t be any further datalink updates for that missile even if the target later re-appears on your radar, as a new track file.

@k_stepanovich argument was that there doesn’t seem to be a way (that we know of) for the pilot to tell the WCS that the new track file is the same target that the missile was intended for.

Now, granted, this is how it’s “supposed” to work in the game … There could be a bug that prevents it from happening which I’m not aware of.

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Implementing this would fix most of the issues with how underwhelming this missile is right now. But knowing them, they’ll probably just write it off as a rare variant with limited service numbers and refuse to update it.

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They cant let their noob premium players suffer in the slightest ever

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Since they are adding it to the tech tree Im hoping that they will see that it could take the mk60 burner and make the tech tree F14D better than the premium one that way.

I hope they well fix seeker of AIM-54C and C+ to all aspect. Its a digital seeker.

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This + gaijin just re-learning how drag works in their game so the 54 and AGM-65 actually accelerate.

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