Its gonna get pl12ed
Idk what you exactly meant, I am guessing you still mean in a situation where the target are still only separated in distance (so closure rate is still the same) right? Well I don’t think I can make AI fly like that, so I just modified the RCS multiplier directly. It would also be very hard to actually pull of, since signal strength scales with RCS^1 but with range^4, so the small increase of RCS from banking is not really large enough to reliably make it switch lock.
So I reversed the launch condition (launch on front target) and settled for a 100x RCS multiplier to really make sure it overpowered the front target in signal strength only.
AIM-54:
lack of range discrimination still prefers the higher signal return target between the two, as range can not be used to track the original target.
AIM-120:
range discrimination allows it to ignore the huge signal from the rear target, while they share the same closure rate, the range tracking gate allows it to ignore returns not matching range with the original target.
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Yeah this should be more then good enough for it. Its pretty clear here that its lacking a range gate.
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is there any way we’re getting sparrowhawk for the f14b?
Alright I think this will work, on top of the previous 2 clips,
to drive home the Distance gate is missing
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Are these missiles actually supposed to hit anything? Because I stopped using them on the F14A, aim7m is far better.
Okay probably last video for this, but maybe handy to include just in case there are some questions or something, because the Phoenix video on the 100x RCS test isn’t exactly fair as theoretically it should swap lock back to the front target, once the missile gets close enough to the 1x RCS target. It doesn’t in the previous video because at the ranges this would happen, the front target fell outside the beamwidth of the missile. But in any case: it doesn’t contradict lack of range discrimination, as with range discrimination, the lock wouldn’t have changed from the original target to begin with.
So here’s a video where both targets remain inside the beamwidth.
Signal strength ∝ RCS/range^4, so if you do the math, to compensate for the 100x larger RCS of the rear target, the missile needs to be about 2.3km from the front target (in this case, range ratio of ~3.16) for both targets to be of equal signal strength. Since the missile keeps going forwards, the front target eventually overpowers the rear target again, and it swaps lock to the front target.
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https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/Yswc0CPiJoaE
New Report is up
Thanks for the clips @CalvinAz
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Nice, although I did misspeak in one of my earlier mentions. So the sentence “The AIM-54 cannot discriminate on range, which causes it to go for the highest RCS target” is not completely correct, because in the first case both targets have equal RCS, what I meant was it goes for the target with the highest return signal/power. So you might want to edit that sentence.
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Fixed
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Where is the videos comparing the aim120 and aim54? In your report
Videos are linked internally when attached to bug reports, only myself and the bug report mods can see them. The only media that links externally is anything uploaded to the screenshots tab.
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I meant specifically for the f14b
Now raise the BR of the F-14B and F-14D to 13.3 or 13.7 if you want it to have missiles approaching the Fox-3 (Aim-120)
100 / 250 m/s2 acceleration rejection threshold range removed
this can 100% effect range
Accepted nice
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Ahhh the Old Classic,
Immediately labeled Not Enough Info,
Glad it was finally Accepted,
A lot of hard work
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Good job guys
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