To be fair the PSP upgrade for the AWG-9 (MPRF, Stream Raid, basically precursor to APG-71) was in development a couple years before the APG was deemed as the better option. They would be very similar in performance for this application though.
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These reports getting denied due to being “prototype missiles” is annoying. I’m finding new sources that say the same thing when it’s in production! My findings so far:
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AIM-54C now:
Have to test still how effective it is, also AIM-54A got it too?
Explain to me what am I looking at
Did they fix it’s speed ? Because on statshark it still can’t go over…4 mach at 15km alt launch.
It should be able to reach over 4 mach easily at that altitude.
TLDR: Previously, the Phoenix only had DopplerSpeedGate (not on the image, but it’s still there) and DopplerSpeed section. This mean it could only track targets based on speed, but now it has the corresponding range ones as well. So now it can track targets both in Speed and Range, giving it “all spect” capability.
Idk exactly how it works, but this is one of my theories based on real radar processing:
dopplerSpeed and and distance are basically govern what the seeker can see for speed and distance respectively.:
- “presents”, maybe just means that it is activated or not, or in other words ‘present’.
- The “minValue” and “maxValue” speak for themselves, those are the limits it can track within.
- “width” is the resolution, or bin size, of the measurment, so if two targets are closer together (in speed or distance) than this value, they may blend together. Lock transfer can happen here too.
- “refWidth”, I have honestly no idea, I need to do some more testing for this.
- “signalWidthMin” may be the resolution/bin size to which it can reduce to. The reason why distance signalWidthMin is the same as normal width is that range resolution is solely based on signal bandwidth (or pulse duration, but those are linked for a pulse radar). However doppler resolution is dynamic and depends on the coherent processing interval, the longer integration, the better the resolution. So I think, the longer a target is tracking coherently (so in straight lines, non maneuvering), the doppler resolution is allowed to shrink to, in this case, 5 m/s.
Then there is DopplerSpeedGate and distGate, these govern tracking gate parameters using the measurements from the dopplerSpeed and distance blocks.
- “filterAlpha” and “filterBetta” are the coefficients for a so called alpha beta filter. This filter is basically a simplified kalman filter. In short, it allows you to track a target by predicting where the target is going to be, and correcting it after using new measurements continuously. The coefficients determine how much it trusts each measurement.
- then we have the “…GateSearchRange”, I think this means that if track is lost, it looks within this range from the predicted state to look for the target. If a new target is found within this range, then the track is initialized on this new target.
Previously it would have gone for the front target, but now it stays on the rear one:
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Thank you. Thats very good news
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ngl i thought the missile would be more maneuverable, its still cannot pull like at all 10km and under, and at low altitude thrust is so bad that the missile looses speed whilst maneuvearing extremely little
Yeah I agree. I think they need to entirely re-evaluate the thrust for sure. They also need to fix the lofting.
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with the very low thrust it has at low alts it makes no sense it lofts as little as it does
If we ever get accurate thrust Mk.60 in warthunder that extra thrust will help a ton even at low altitudes. To add onto what you said, the reason it doesn’t feel as maneuverable as it should is because it can’t force itself through the air. It’s essentially stalling itself out while still burning.
Yeah I think the devs need to be less gentle with the MBAM manuever and just make it rocket up like we see in real life footage. With the altitude based thrust we are seeing in real time how important it is.
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its crazy how the stats are technically so different, but the only real practical buff it got is that it has the all aspect capability somewhat gpull is still bad and the range is speed and range are nerfed in 90% of cases. ive got more kills with aim9h and aim9m than with aim54s so far
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aim9ms are great tho finally good missiles on the f14b, full aim9m loadout would probably be the best one lol
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Im very sorry that its all green but i have to show you this “buffed” aim54
i do not know why its green, but its fair to say the missile is still pathetically bad. first one never goes active second one is a train.
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8.4 g max pull at a top down target i shot when going at low supersonic speeds. the missile might as well be useless. doesnt even reach mach 3
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I am aware the missile travels only 72.5NM (134km not 116km). However it is launched from 110NMI (204km). That’s what is used to determine missile range. The graph when configured for 110NMI should show the missile traveled 72.5NMI.
I guess they are. That’s rather unintuitive.
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man what a massive disappointment, im probably taking a break for a bit this was the only thing i actually as exited for and nothing.
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Omg Aim-54C+ is horrible, I’m tired boss
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Idk I think its pretty good, just lacks range