Are there any numbers for the AMRAAM-AXE?
Not specifically, but it should be quite similar to the AMRAAM-ER in effect.
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AIM-120E in the works?
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https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/Vbt1n9PpHjMd
AIM-120C-5 excessive drag
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Higher drag coefficient doesn’t necessarily equal extra drag; even gszabi’s sheet warns against this interpretation.
The A and C have relative advantages in drag at different phases of flight. While the AAM-4 has the same 1.55 CXK it has higher drag across all phases of flight. While the Fakour has a much lower CXK of 1.05 it has much higher drag than all the others.
Should also note that the C-5 is said to be WIP right now and values could change quickly. I’m not even sure if the current datamines are actually reflective of dev server values.
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in case of AIM-120 it should be. since both AIM-120 has simillar diameter, length.
Yep, but they still can forget to do so, thats why report was created.
well, gszabi said on discord that it is up to date
Can’t use data mine, we need to wait for the devs to notice the issue. It is because the 120C5 was done when 120B first came, the 120B initially had a cD of 1.65 iirc, so the 1.6 of 120C5 represented the drag reduction, but they fixed 120B by dropping the drag to 1.425, but forgot to adjust the C5 too.
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My question is when/if they will even notice it
As you said datamines cannot be used for this and we have no easy way of clearly seeing it aside from slightly lower range/speed than what is supposed to be there
Plus in my own testing of the dev server ive definitely found the 120C to be somewhat lacking for range
Currently if i fire both a 120B and 120C on a target at the same time the B always gets there quicker to the point where the C loses too much energy and stalls out before the B does
Im not experienced enough with bug reports though to compile that into my own report so perhaps someone else should do that
Assuming that the 120C will be anything other than a faster more lethal harder to notch Aim120B with added ability for close range (HOB) capability is misguided it is going to be great when it hits live or dev server 2.0
10% more total thrust output
10% less drag
More susceptible to speed/energy loss when manuvering.
It’s not a wonder weapon and the primary advantage it brings is the signficantly improved high offboresight/snap shot capability and improved seeker notch angles.
It only brings a minor improvement in range.
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120C-5 got updated
now it is almost identical to R-77-1 with time-to-hit and velocity on impact. Su-30SM and F-15E headon.
Launched at same time ±
TBH main trouble now - radars, where 120C-5 is located
It has been fixed in .21
ohh no 120c-5 going break the game to strong!
meanwhile 120C-5 (Temporal Glitch Edition):
Unlocked via Battle Pass Tier 420
Physics: “Accidentally collides with parallel-universe Abrams”
Gets nerfed next patch into a mobility scooter with a water gun
Players rage-convert its parts into crypto-war-bonds
War Thunder (DirectX 12, 64bit) - In battle 06_12_46 07_46_20 م|1000x562
meanwhile the Chad 120b already has its performance
Giga Chad OG 120B (Vintage Legacy Rizz)
Certified (Pre-Collapse" Meta Tank (grandfathered into OP)
Survived (The Great Compression (2024 BR Apocalypse)
Flexes (I Played Before Quantum Tanks" title (0.001% drop rate)
Actually just vibing while Gaijin’s (AI Overlord “Snaily McPatch” targets you)
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Angle half sensitivity was changed from 7.5 to 15 though.
Bruh f15e was at 60000ft while su 30 at 49000ft
that doesn’t mean they have same performance the 120c5 was at 11k ft advantage but still can’t beat 77-1 at lower height
Quite a few things were changed now
Looking at the stats it gets a slightly lower AOA performance than the A/B now and everything else is copy paste except the drag and motor performance
So its basically the A/B with a better motor and thats it
Yeah c5 seems to be a very marginal improvement.
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It’s unfortunate that they just copy and paste the seeker pretty lazy imo hopefully its still wip.
Yeah the biggest change i want from these missiles is just better seeker performance because range does not matter at all if you can defend against it as easily as you can currently
Id gladly trade the extra range for just a better seeker
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