The speed drop curve shouldn’t look like the others. One doesn’t loft and the others do. MRAAMs that loft would have a slower acceleration but also slower speed-drop off.
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This graph indicates a launch speed of Mach 2 with the closest analogous altitude being 10km instead of a launch speed of M1.0. Its also a velocity over time graph instead of a velocity over distance graph. They are not comparable, though you could use a known velocity at a know time to determine how close they are had your graph not been a M2.0 launch, which is vastly higher than the launch speed used in-game. Maybe stop insulting people when you don’t know what you’re talking about
I can’t see what you wrote and I can’t open it either
The speed graph from the R-27ER depends on time and different heights
Do you still not understand why this graph is irrelevant for comparison with the one from in-game posted above? xD
It’s more relevant, it avoids potential improper launch and test conditions. 1° below horizontal can have 10% + difference in impact on time to target and performance for the non-lofting missiles.
That is, in your opinion, the Game rocket should not match the real one?
Here is a graph of the speed m/s from a distance. Few points are taken. If you take more points, the graph will be more flat
The game schedule is not correct. Since the ER has a lower speed over 60s. Than AiM-120 and R-77
During the test, the aircraft was not manually pulled up to loft the 27er. Other arh missiles will automatically loft. The farther the launch distance, the higher the missile maximum flight altitude, which greatly slows down the decline of the terminal speed.
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That’s fine. Let’s move the R-27 discussion to the correct thread it is getting a bit long in the tooth here.
I gave up trying to explain things to him at this point. Speaking to pro-russian players is like talking to flat earthers.
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I’m an American main & patriot…?
In the actual game, the R-27ER can greatly improve the performance of long-distance shooting through manual LOFT.
60km 9600m m1.14 (1340kph) launch, 30° manual LOFT
46.3s, 2.5M, very powerful
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Would be interesting to know if devs actually modeled the seeker aquisition phase of the R/ER correctly? The strongest target within ±150m/s from the last known Vc within a 12° cone will be locked when it transitions to SAHR from radio commanda guidance. If you go under Mach 1 and put the R/ER shooter at 60° gimbal limit, the R/ER could lock Chaff or ground clutter. Basically notching it. And if the ER/R leads, depending on how much its leading you, possible you could stay slightly above Mach 1 and still notch it during this phase.
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low attitude test
1000m m0.9 vs 1000m m0.9
tested15\20\25\30\35\40km
mica and r77 cannot hit the 40km target (because of flight control problems)
pl12 cannot hit the 35km target (same reason)
Some interesting things can be seen. For example, due to changes in ballistic height, some missiles are launched at longer distances, but their terminal speeds are higher.
It’s hard to imagine that the PL12 has the shortest range among these missile.
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This is all very interesting, I believe there is a generalized fox-3 thread it would be better placed in. You can find it here;
Out of random curiosity, does anyone have any pics of F-4’s carrying AIM-120’s on their wing stations? I was just thinking about this as next patch will come with the addition of Fox 3’s, and for germany, that means the F-4F ICE, which I know can carry 4 belly mounted AMRAAM’s, but I’m unsure about any other weapon stations.
I have seen this shot, allegedly of an F-4 firing an AMRAAM off a wing station, though I have some doubts of it being an F-4, but since its a cockpit view, I can’t tell what nations F-4 this is, though there are very few F-4’s that ever went through sufficient modernizations to fire AIM-120’s in the first place, nor can I tell how many AIM-120’s the wing station of this particular F-4 can accommodate,
As a side note, I’m worried the ICE will likely be dead on arrival, flying a 10.7 airframe with 12.7 weapons vs 12.3 airframes with 12.7 weapons. It will likely need something like IRIS-T to have any real chance of competing unless gaijin puts it at a lower BR due to its inferior airframe, which would be comedic when the 29G is already at 12.7.
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There’s also the Greek Peace Icarus that had used AIM-120s.
The F-4F ICE would be in a lot better state than the J-8F which can only carry 2 PL-12s (total 6) while the ICE can carry 4 AIM-120s with 4 IR missiles (total 8). It would also be more maneuverable than the Tornado F.3 while having an MPRF radar (although Stage 3 radar for some reason has really low notch zone in-game).
It does however lack in terms of having an HMD.
So at best, it would be a support fighter, but isn’t the F-4 Phantom already outrating the Mig-29?
And it would be a lot faster then the Shar