a very small amount of tickets
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It is ineffective than strike aircraft(Killing ground targets) or a fighter(killing enemy planes) in the same BR.
Yes, Gaijin just gelded the only way of bomber contributes to victory.
(Even though destroying the airfield itself was hard)
Yes.
Correction: You won the match purely by freeriding the team.
For example, if you fly IL-2 instead of Yer-2, you can be way better at decreasing tickets because
-Low-altitude carpet bombing is risky
-High altitude bombing is inaccurate.
So, Hyperbolically, Every bomber player is are dead-weight in the team, and contributes to losing by doing nothing.
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@Stockholm_Blend
IDK about being top 5 of a team of 16 being “free riding”, and in some cases the #1 on the leaderboard in score.
In even rarer cases I was the last one alive.
Not a bomber, but was forced to play strike aircraft…
I was in my F-104S post-nerf on Mozdok. It was still 10.7 at the time, but it couldn’t turn in an over-performing way anymore.
Mig-21Bis fragged the last dude.
Easy loss if I let him get in gun range… or I could bleed tickets and get a W for my team instead, which I did.
One example out of hundreds where ticket advantage won matches from base bombing, and strike missions.
This was all after respawning bases were introduced to the game of course.
Respawning bases allowed for deeper ticket bleed from base bombing, which is the real reason the timer was increased.
I still wish Gaijin just put a ticket up system or increased ticket amount instead of just nerfing base spawn time.
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It is hard, but when it happens it is great.
Some bombers I’ve done it in thus far:
B-66B [arcade, failed attempt because I was eating dinner which slowed me down].
Yak-28 over 10 times.
Buccaneer S2 over 5 times.
I’ve done it in far more, but those memories have faded.
The recipe is usually fast bombers, but clearly speed isn’t the only way as your match illustrates.
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Base bombing gives a drastic score.
If I flew Milan and did nothing but destroy 4 bases in a match in an 8.7-9.7 match
My teammates will literally get slaughtered because I didn’t do dogfighting as the top dog of the team
But I might be in #3 on the scoreboard.
Yeah, If I spaceclimb with Lancaster or Tu-4, I usually can be the last one alive.
(Unless I got caught by Vautour IIN’s R.511 SARH while flying with Tu-4)
The Problem of ‘classical bombers’ which got led to the removal of airfield destruction in this update.
It usually can’t contribute better than strike aircrafts in the same BR.
Strategic bombers, which are fitted to destroy an airfield (with a heavy payload), are forced to take disadvantage of the base reward multiplier. because Gaijin punishes player who carries a payload which requires more than destroying 1 base (AFAIK, est 25k dmg)
Yes, Bomber can still do some futile-ish resistance in current circumstances.
G8N, Be-6 or Lincoln might be an example of that.
Still, it won’t change the fact that Gaijin just removed what bombers do best.
and made them as inferior strike aircrafts.
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I barely care since it will give help me grind more sl and rp :D
@Stockholm_Blend
I’ve space climbed in exactly one bomber, and that’s when there was an in-air rearming icon in air RB.
I’ve never space climbed since. Space climbing is less rewards per minute.
And no, Gaijin hasn’t removed bases. They made matches last longer which helps teams get more rewards.
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Space climbing is only one of many applications of heavy bombers.
Problem is that 99% of players cant comprehend anything else other than spawn - then point nose at base and hold W until they die.
Many bombers can operate under the radar - such as Lancaster/Shackleton etc - obv not B29 or Lincoln though.
If I can drop 4 tons of bombs and survive - I am certainly contributing far more than 6 fighters who charged into headons and died within 3 minutes and left.
Anyhow - we have had 4 base respawns for YEARS now - It really angered me when they done it but I had to accept it - As long as they dont do the same to the old maps like Malta, Hokkaido, Britain, New Guinea etc etc - - If they do not change these old maps then what exactly does this new base mechanic pertain to?
What I meant by space-climbing is,
You can be the last one by that ineffective strategy.
Just like how ineffective the bomber is.
Yes, Gaijin hasn’t removed bases. The one which takes turnpoint role in the former system.
Destroy 3 bases then airfield.
They removed AIRFIELD as a target.
By killing a key role of bombers, and let us be inferior strike aircrafts in all aspects?
By sacrificing bombers which can’t help teams?
How marvellous, For the greater good, just as Sandford does. right?
I thank you for your contribution as a bomber player, and I understand how exceptional your skill is.
But at the same time, it can’t justify how the Bombers are generally overrated.
As a joke, I wonder why you support that guy who agrees with the full removal of the airfield for the greater good.
This type of backstabbing was quite unexpected.
Yes, the Traditional way of playing bombers.
Get gelded step by step and accept the cold fact that Gaijin don’t care about bombers.
Nah, they will do the same eventually. (maybe except those Pacific maps which never had bases and airfields at the beginning)
1- Gaijin removed airfield destruction in higher ranks long ago. So they want to make it consistent to lower BR. because it is easier to learn for newbies.
2- They want to do us nothing but easy prey for those Interceptors.
score ≠ contribution
bombing bases is literally the worst possible way to drain tickets - ground pounding is vastly better in every way
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what does that matter?
It works and can do more than a majority of players do.
It is just a silly argument.
It matters because
Bombers are forced to limit in role for victory.
We BOTH know that Gaijin removed airfield destruction. The most straightforward option of the bomber makes the team win.
Yes, destroying bases to decreasing tickets works.
Just… It is not as effective as killing ground targets or shooting enemies down.
Maybe YOU can do more than a majority of players do
But meanwhile, the majority of fighters do more than the majority of bombers do.
Look at these fighter-jocks who wanted full removal of base, airfield, ground targets, ticket draining and make ARB as TDM PVP mode.
Because they genuinely believe we are freeloaders of the team, and don’t want us in ARB and breathe the same air as them.
Yes. This is just a silly argument.
Gaijin is cutting our limbs one by one, just like how Mr Clarke cuts the limbs of necromorph.
And you took side of that guy and backstabbed me.
If we don’t want our bombers to get removed because of worthlessness, we need a better way to contribute to winning.
And Gaijin terminated the option of airfield destruction in lower ranks, in this update.
I agree, I just disagreed with the sentiment of base bombing ticket bleed is useless thats all :)
I think I should clarify I was only thinking of bombers up to 9.3 9.7.
In any case - like you said, we can all agree they have been fucking bombers for years now and this is another big kick to the nutsack.
And I am NOT HAPPY.
It is my birthday today, just got home from work and I am going to fly a bomber to see if I can get a 3 base map.
Happy Birthday. I’m sure you’ll get a good gajining.
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To be fair destroying bases shouldnt take out many tickets.
The win condition for bombing its destroying the bases to then insta win at destroying the airfield (which has a lot of hp). Because destroying the 4 bases its so easy, making this a win condition its not fair (especially at top tier)
I really dont get it why. It already was present only in a mode you would get once in a blue moon and now itsw gone completely, stupid, stupid, STUPID GAIJIN! Bombers were already useless but very, very rarely you could win a game single handed by bombing the airfield… this is just sad!
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Agreed Sir.