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so this is why Russian noobs think 2S38 is bad, they have 0 idea how to do something so basic as hull down
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You know that it still can be easily killed using HEAT, HE or hitting munition inside the turret it’s more difficult but possible
Ofc the most OP MBT currently available, the Leo 2, and Russian tanks (which won’t be fighting 2S38) access powerful HE, but what about tanks like Abrams? Even for HEAT, it’s a very small chance, and even switching to HEAT in the first place is dangerous.
Both HEAT and HE have sufficient power to destroy 2S38 if hit in turret.
What noncense is this ?
Stop making excuses
HEAT has an extremely low chance
That is absolute lie
Brotha cannot be serious with a clickbait only lineup
How much low you going to go to deny objective reality that 2S38 can be easily killed by M830 HEAT shell it can be checked in protection analysis by anyone who has game you don’t need to own 2S38 or have every tank in the game. Stop making excuses and admit that you have one hell of a massive skill issue
Except there are no maps that allow for this.
It’s too low to do what M1128 does, yet too high with a bad gun depression for everything else.
And finding spots in M1128 is already difficult due to its height.
2S38 has the height problem in both directions.
I bought the 2S38 to finally see if I was biased while dying to it.
The first game I played, I shot down a Jaguar who was 9km above me in the sky. The guy also tried to evade me. It did not help.
My Gepard 1A2 and FlaRakPz can’t even do that.
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Yeah, I doubt that.
That would imply OTOMATIC’s range exceeds 11km.
What I think happened is you either got an extremely lucky once in a lifetime shot, similar to my APFSDS shooting down a Ka-50 from 5.5km away, or they were significantly closer.
Either way, its BR is already 0.7 BRs above its SPAA capabilities.
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then just get better at finding spots.
It’s not lol
So that begs the question. Is OTOMATIC balanced at 11.3+ purely based on its SPAA capabilities?
Or is your assessment of 2S38 incorrect?
Cause 2S38 is objectively inferior as a SPAA, and I think OTOMATIC is at best 10.7 SPAA capable which of course has me believe that 2S38 is at most 10.0 SPAA capable; an ideological and assessment consistency.
Imo people get the impression this vehicle is over performing because cripples tanks with the gun and that pisses you off before it kills you, it’s indeed and annoying vehicle but that doesn’t mean it’s overpowered. It’s a pretty slow moving box basically, one shot and it’s dead, it’s also easy to spot when it fires and it lacks any atgms. I rarely see them getting many kills before they die.
The main difference between the OTOMATIC and 2S38 is just the radar and maybe 1-1.5km more range against non-helicopter targets.
After test driving the 2S38, getting 3.8-4.5km shots isn’t difficult, and going off of others’ gameplay of the OTOMATIC (even those who think it somehow deserves its BR), it at most will hit non-helicopter targets at 5.5km - maybe 6km if the dude’s not paying attention.
Seeing that, a gap of 0.7 BR makes sense in terms of AA abilities, but when you look at the anti-tank capabilities the 2S38 has much, much better AT abilities (currently), and would shrink the gap to 0.3 BR. So at minimum the 2S38 should be 11.0 in comparison to the OTOMATIC.
The OTOMATIC is inferior to the 2S38 in all areas aside from Radar.
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Btw, with recent LRF buffs to it, will it actually be able to lock targets further away than OTOMATIC? That would be funny if true
I’ve managed to get a lock with tracking easily out to 9 kilometers, which means it can outrange most of the Anti-Airs in-game.