Im sure you have prove that 2S38 is op ?
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Dude, stop talking nonsense.
I did not accuse everyone of propaganda as you claim, learn English before stating falsehood. Just as I have not accused everyone of trolling. So, stop misrepresenting yourself in order to be right in a conversation.
Maybe stick to the vehicle in question instead of attacking Gaijin and other players.
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2S38 and BMP2M should be at 10.7, since both of them are playable at TOP TIER and can do an excellent job when it comes to penetrating modern tanks.
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Which I did, I did not attack any player… Have you by any chance seen i write the name of a player and accuse him??? Like I said, you should stop spouting falsehoods to be right in a conversation. Or, please continue, you are just putting the noose around your own neck, as this is clearly an ‘Ad hominem attacks’ described in the ‘Guidelines’. After all, you are the one who brought this discussion up.
As for Gaijin, nowhere in the ‘Guidelines’ does it say that if Gaijin does nonsense like propaganda players are forbidden to write it in their forums.
Hard to imagine why anyone would flag your posts…
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You know you should take a cue from your suggestion, maybe you should imitate the vehicle in question instead of attacking me with bogus accusations.
Time to move on man.
I would put OTOMATIC together with 2s38 at BR 10.7, OTOMATIC is the worst SPAA has no place in BR 11.3.
As for BMP2M it would do well at most at BR 10.3 because of the fact that it can fire rockets in motion which gives it a huge advantage over counterpart vehicles of other nations that are forced to stop the engine to fire rockets.
Already done
Yeah makes sense.
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Sure, when HSTVL goes to 12.7 and Strv 9040C goes to 11.7.
2S38 also isn’t a prototype, it’s an unsold serialized vehicle.
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The date of a vehicle doesn’t means something to the BR and the 2S38 actually isn’t broken, it’s like any other Automatic SPAA or IFV, they completly destroy your ass, the same for the Bradleys, Puma, etc.
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Bradley can kill easy leo2a4 from the front with tow2b behind cover, 2s38 can do the same? puma have better survival. the best part of IFVs at 10.0 have their strengths. stop to cry
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And? Its date of creation is irrelevant to its capabilities
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Yes, I’m being serius.
Bradley and Puma have faster fire-rate, both of them having 201 rounds per minute while the 2S38 have a fire rate of 120 per minute.
They got better armour capabilites, they are capable of eat ATGM like nothing due the aditional armour and spaced armour both have, the 2S38 no, it’s literally butter.
Bradley have TOW’S, wich is one of best ATGM of the BR.
2S38 got a big weakspot in the turret with the ammunition, crew survivability is almost 0 (+they are all in the same spot) and in the last update it got autoloader modules that can get destroyed or damaged. The Puma and Bradley have them too, but their ammo rack is anulled.
2S38 in 11.7 isn’t competent, mediocre armour, decent mobility, mediocre survivability, a 220mm pen gun, that’s the only good thing it has. That’s all.
(they all can frontally kill an Leo2A4.)
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I’d love them to be 10.7, the current SSSR 10.7 lineup would feel a lot more prevalent
Bradley is literally plastic, TOW is ass right now the moment you launch it goes straight to the ground.
I can’t say anything about PUMA because i don’t have it but from several matches i’ve fought against it i can say its pretty mediocre without SPIKES.
None of these you mentioned do not have the luxury of +200mm of APFSDS, it can do a great job when it comes to CAS (killing helis from their spawn) and none of them have UAV, thermal comm sight, proxy, apfsds, aphe, ess, smokes, lws/lrf, gen 3 thermals and autoloader.
As i said 2S38 at 10.7 can perform good, staying away from 10.0,9.7.
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Ladies__Man_217 has already answered for me and told you where your argument is wrong.
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