From the two pictures below, it is clear that the latest 2s25M has the same laser alarm receiver as the 2s38.
For a light tank destroyer lacking armor, the importance of laser warning devices is more prominent than other auxiliary equipment. Of particular note, the elevating mechanism speed of the 2s25m is extremely slow, and even cannot match elevating mechanism speed of some manual turrets in World War II (I remember someone pointed out this issue, I don’t know Gaijin’s current attitude towards this issue, please send me any news, thank you), which requires a laser warning device to compensate for its low reaction speed in the 2s25m.
At the same time, we noticed in the displayed image that there are skirt armor on both sides of the 2s25m, which means that the 2s25m can withstand attacks from 7.62mm bullets. This will also improve its survivability, enabling it to cope with various combat situations.
Adding skirts and laser warning devices as modified parts to the game can not only improve the player’s gaming experience, but also be more in line with the actual situation. If someone says it is too unbalanced, adjusting it to 10.3 may solve the problem.
and also,pictures of sideskirts
agree, but maybe you should send this to issue
This one seems like to be some late** add-on modification of the 2S25M1 Sprut-SD:
Which is cool looking and feels like it would be used in some real battle 🔥!
Hope this is added along with some others modernization vehicles like BMD-4M and BMP-3M with this cool camouflage pattern.
**edition
Better off as a separate vehicle then. No point changing the current one if it just ends up at a higher BR.
A event vehicle would be nice,
Anyways, this add-on armor doesn’t seems to change much, both 2S25 and M is very vulnerable to auto cannons and heavy machine guns. But with this space maybe should solve this issue.
I agree with upgrading the 2S25M, BUT would def not want it to go up in BR. I have a good 10.0 lineup that would be ruined if it were to get bumped. Already just had the Strela move up to 10.3 in GAB.
It bothered me that this vehicle didn’t have e its side skirts, please.
Make a report here
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder?from-ts=1698811200&to-ts=1717214399
Yeah, I mean its the only thermal tank in the 10.0 lineup that doesn’t cost $65 USD to play.
It’s elevating mechanism speed is it biggest problem, 3bm60 and 9m119m can’t provide any help. I would exchange it going to 10.3 with 3bm46 for a 10 or 20 degree/s elevating mechanism speed.
(It’s not normal tech tree as it’s a squad vehicle) but the BMP-2M is great too :D and @ 10.0 br. Though, I am a big light tank fan, so very biased about my love of most light tanks xD
This link doesn’t direct to a specific post, and a bunch of the results are in Russian. Just a heads up =)
Definitely, I just separate IFV’s into their own thing because they play very differently to light tanks.
Surprised they haven’t added a separate icon and tag for IFV’s yet.
I’d rather fight that Russian Sprut than a damn 2S38 any day.
I’m actually glad they gave the 10.0 one 3BM60. It slightly culls the crowd of 2S38 spam.
This isn’t something that should be reported. It’s a suggestion for a different vehicle. And should be created as a suggestion on the forum.
I agree, the modification should be made a suggestion.
2S25 Sprut-SD/SDM1 gun elevation speed // Gaijin.net // Issues
From this link, it can be seen that gaijin has also paid attention to this issue, but for some reason they have shown a wavering attitude. I used to be very curious why they chose to add 3bm60 and 9m119m1 for 2s25m instead of increasing the elevating mechanism speed. But later on, I made a conjecture (without intentionally offending them, and what I said was just one statement, not necessarily true): “They used elevating mechanism speed as a means of balance.” Yes, just like other parameters such as loading time, top speed, armor, ammunition penetration depth, etc. Although this is not in line with history, it is the simplest and most crude means of balance.However, I can also understand them to some extent: it is indeed difficult to achieve a perfect balance between a large number of various types of vehicles, let alone many criticisms from the player community
That’s why I proposed adding laser warning devices and side skirts instead of increasing televating mechanism speed, “When God closes this door, he will open another door for you.”
more like gaijin’s strange persisting in some data. unless you have documents or other trusted source, they won’t change.
they know 2s25m is weak, but they don’t want to change