They butchered T-90A with that too, since 10.7 lack of vehicles and T-72 lines need a filler like T-80B for T-80 lines, they uses the doc of T-90S manual but not the T-90A.
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2S25M kinda niche for new player or USSR player, normally when i check other player who play 2S25/25M, they mostly play with heavy CAS or veteran players who know to positioning rather then brawling with MBT.
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i think it can be moved to 10.3 now
Yeah, for GRB 10.3 would be fine now. Would still kinda prefer if it “only” went up to 10.0 for GAB tho 😂 I still do fine with it, but not sure if its win/loss numbers would get them to justify a BR bump.
not arcade, it very very much relies on stealth. but when the whole enemy team can see you… it is the same reason why asu-57 is 3.7 in gab
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Very late reply but technically the BMP-3M is in game, as a fully upgraded BMP-3 with sodema thermals is a BMP-3M
I dont get why this little beast isn’t 10.3, it has a line up with the T-72B’s & OSA and/or Strela AS SPAAG, there is no more 10.0 line up.
Comparing this little package to the TAM2C sitting at 10.3 GFRB:
- better Hp/t 27.8 to 23.6;
- less speed, slightly forward a lot in reverse 75/75 compared to 70/20, but still faster then most USSR vehicles;
- both have same thermal available for both gunner and commander, not sure about the generation;
- 2S25M has slightly better optic 4-12x for both, while TAM has 3-10X for gunner and 2-8x for commander;
- TAM has better elevation in both angles and speed: -7/18 degrees @ 15 d/s, while 2S25M has -4/16 degrees @ 3.5 d/s;
- Reload is 7.1 sec for both if TAM has Expert crew, aced it’s 6.7;
- in firepower the 2S25M wins by a landslide, with 3BM60@580mm and Tandem ATGM@850mm, against the TAM’s DM63@430mm and 400mm HEAT-FS;
For me:
in Mobility:
The TAM has the edge in Reverse but SPRUT can compensate with better acceleration;
Armour:
Both made from cardboard, with edge for TAM with sloped UFP and huge engine in front. But won’t save you from APFSDS;
Firepower:
- Traverse:
Sprut is faster in the horizontal by 1 d/s, but loses in elevation by 4x;
TAM has better vertical angles but still worse then other Western vehicles; - Optics:
Both Have TVD for both CMDR and GUNNER, where SPRUT has better zoom levels; - ammo selection:
SPRUT wins by a large margin with 150mm more flat pen and Tandem HEAT ATGM which it can fire on the move;
For me the SPRUT could be 10.3 no problem, you should have gotten used to the less then optimal vertical guidance of the USSR guns by the time you get to this vehicle.
They put a massive gun on a very small LT and in good USSR fashion went for the lowest profile possible. which leaves no room for the breach to move, mobility wise they has a reverse gearbox in the 2S25 but went with a different one for the M limiting it to 20 kph
I’ve spaded the BMP-3 and it doesn’t look like this, at least to mine:
As it uses the early version loading mechanism for the 100 mm cannon, lacks side protection, passive protection system and everything people could get to make it battle rating 9.3 worth.
Soderma technically makes it BMP-3M, for me no, a thermal sight in-game won’t make the vehicle any better that it was.
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