The 1 sided air defense problem is still here and worse than ever

The missiles still produce smoke, when they should be smokeless, and the vehicle model is wrong for Israel. The one in game is based on the M48A2 variant, which Israel never got.

Wrong FLIR pod.

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Missing the commander’s pintle mounted machine gun.

Yes, bug reports for both problems exist. Nothing has been done.

yeah the radars on all the new AAs are a buggy mess

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if i remember seeing people mention on the tansam kai tads they removed the 110* search and the TWS fast scan in the live server

why? Does that vehicle have that capability? Just curious because I haven’t tested anything on the dev server so was unaware.

it does, the TADS is an aesa radar (a very powerful one at that) strapped on a truck

pantsir is at it’s lowest right now lol

Ayoooo, why they gotta remove such a critical part of the SAM 😭 maybe thats another reason why the radar feels wonky too…

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the Type 81C ARH is also missing its actual model it uses the IR one currently (ARH has a pointy nose not a smooth nose)

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eurofighter

Same goes for SLAMRAAM

I expected this answer. Let me guess, it has 14x brimstones?

shor tl;dr reply, no. Gripen is actually better CAS platform than Eurofighter due to having FnF mavericks.

as for long answer, i will just link my post under different thread as to not repeat myself and not derailing this topic: Either I cant find it, which i find unlikely, or it was deleted by mods. Either way, cant link it.

As to not derail the thread further, just in short:
Brimstones suck because:
A) they are slow (almost 60 seconds of flight time if launched from max range of 15km)
B) they arent FnF but SAL. Brimstones either require you to babysit them for 60 seconds, which is insanely long time window in context of top tier games, and due to gimball limits of the TGP, you cant effectively defend; or jump through hoops that are massively dependant on timing and luck to certain degree to make use of them.

so no, sweden arguably does not need it more due to having worse CAS.

I mean not just brimstones the Eurofighter does just have more pylons. Gripen c can carry 4 gbu plus 2 aim9l and that’s about it.

Eurofighter cancarry 2x it missiles and 2xfox3 ontop of having 2 more a2g pylons

which you dont have to use, nor you should even carry to begin with munitions that arent FnF.

i assume you dont have that much top tier experience if you think that brimstones, or GBUs, will be your main weapon, or usable for that matter.

lets take the Brimstones again as example. As they are not FnF but SAL, you can effectively engage single target.

You either launch from max range, which means 60 seconds until Brimstone arrives at targets location. If you take all 14x Brimstones, thats 14 minutes until you launch them all at max range.

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or you will resort to that “trick” every non-EFT player glazes about where you launch Brimstone, hide below horizon for most of its flight duration, and only pop over it again to guide it in at the last few seconds.

Which is frankly, too much work to achieve fraction of success of FnF munition, and against SINGLE target.

And on top of that its much more timing and luck dependant than just launching 6x Kh-38MTs as soon as you spawn and going to rearm at airfield, because if the target moves when you cant see it, theres possibility you wont be able to find it again in time.

Even if you queued them, lets say, every 30 seconds, thats still 7 minutes. Any shorter and again you become too exposed by needing to frequently pop over the horizon.

You arent surviving that long, being exposed, in contested airspace.

Now with the next gen AA systems arriving, hanging exposed that long against something like SLM is suicide.

Compare that to Gripen which can pop over horizon, launch Maverick and hide again. And Gripen can do that against multiple targets.

SLM will force FnF weapons on aircraft even more, if the meta doesnt shift towards tossing GPS bombs from low alt or if gaijin doesnt introduce new A2G munitions.

not to mention Gripens have much more favorable BR for ground battles, which will allow them see downtiers to the Leo2A4M (CAN), Clickbait and T-80U-E1 battles, as opposed to EFT, which sits at 13.0, meaning it will ever only see 12.0 games.

So, again, EFT is not better than Gripen in A2G role, and definetively does not justify Sweden needing SLM more than germany. Not that it matters when germany already has it.

If anything, other systems needs buff, namely SPYDER, and Italy and UK still dont have their next gen AA systems, which should take priority over everything else, including Sweden getting SLM.

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Well I agree that the other nations should be top priority. Sweden should still get the slm. Even if you don’t agree with my points sweden did buy irist slm irl and will eventually get them. As for cas. I have 0 idea how good top tier mavericks are. My strike viggen has the basic a variant and another a variant with a saphe warhead. And frankly they arent anything crazy even for 10.3

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eventually. yes.

Missiles are still the same. But they are on faster platforms meaning more energy for the maverick. Also TGPs which makes target accquisition much more faster thanks to zoom and thermals, and its easier to calculate if the missile will hit as they also display range.

I only disagree with line of thought that because EFT has 14x brimstones its crazy good CAS. its not, because they dont operate in vacuum.

They should just remove kh38 with the ir seeker and the hammers with it seeker temporarily until they fix the maps IMO. And then we can get actual long range missiles+sead. Rn Id rather get touched by release day f14 Iran than to deal with sead munitions in a ww2 map

he predicted it

Half predicted it. We got BUK but its not that uber buffed.

yeah

BUK’s Jing out after missing all missiles on a single recon drone and missing every shot