[TH] North American F-86L - The Ultimate Interceptor Sabre

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Introducing

North American
F-86L ‘Sabre Dog’
No Guns, No Problem - Just Rockets & Sidewinders


Thai Designation: บ.ข.๑๗ก
[Boh Koh 17A or B.Kh.17A]



RTAF F-86L ‘Sabre Dog’ with AIM-9B Sidewinders and 2.75 in FFAR Air-to-Air Rocket Tray

OVERVIEW

The North American F-86D/K/L “Sabre Dog” was a specialized interceptor series derived from the legendary F-86 Sabre, developed for the U.S. Air Force in the late 1940s. While the original F-86 was designed as a high-speed day fighter, the Sabre Dog variants were purpose-built for all-weather interception, featuring major structural and systems changes. These included a larger fuselage, a powerful afterburning engine (J47-GE-17B or -33), and a distinctive nose radome housing an onboard radar and fire control system. Armament also differed significantly—replacing guns with a retractable tray carrying 24 × 2.75-inch “Mighty Mouse” folding-fin aerial rockets.

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F-86D with ‘Mighty Mouse’ FFAR rocket tray

The F-86L specifically emerged as an upgraded version of the F-86D under “Project Follow-On.” Its primary enhancement was the integration of the AN/ARR-39 datalink for compatibility with the revolutionary SAGE (Semi-Automatic Ground Environment) system. SAGE, developed by MIT’s Lincoln Laboratory and introduced in 1953, was one of the most advanced military computing systems of its time. It enabled ground-based radar stations to process tracking data and automatically relay real-time interception vectors to the pilot, guiding the aircraft toward its target. This system significantly reduced pilot workload and communication errors that plagued earlier ground-controlled intercept methods.

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Electronics found in an F-86L

All F-86Ls were conversions of low-hour F-86Ds, brought up to F-86D-45 standards before being outfitted with upgraded avionics. These included the AN/ARC-34 radio, AN/APX-25 IFF transponder, AN/ARN-31 glide slope receiver, and new cooling ducts on the fuselage sides. The most significant airframe change was the adoption of the F-86F-40 wing, featuring 12-inch extended wingtips and leading-edge slats, increasing wingspan to 39.1 feet and wing area to 313.37 square feet. This modification improved high-altitude handling and turn performance.


Taken from: 2003, Curtis, D., North American Sabre Dog, pt. 3 - ANG & Foreign F-86D,K,L (Air Force Legends 211)

Under the Military Assistance Program (MAP) in the early 1960s, a number of surplus F-86L aircraft were transferred to allied air forces, including the Royal Thai Air Force. Thailand received approximately 20 F-86Ls, using them in the air defense role. However, due to the absence of a supporting SAGE network in Southeast Asia and the aircraft’s demanding upkeep, their service life in Thailand was short. By the late 1960s, most Thai F-86Ls were retired, marking a brief but important phase in the modernization of Thailand’s Cold War-era air defense capabilities.

Under its service with the Royal Thai Air Force, the F-86L was fitted with rails for the AIM-9B Sidewinder to better suit the RTAF’s needs similar to what can be found with its F-86F Sabres. They served under the 12 Tactical Fighter Squadron based on Don Muang, Thailand and flew protective top cover for USAF bases during the Vietnam War. They were replaced with proper COIN aircraft to better suit the Counter-Insurgency Operations that Thailand actually faced and not interceptors.

SPECIFICATIONS

Characteristic Details
Type All-weather Interceptor
Manufacturer North American Aviation
Crew 1 (pilot)
Powerplant 1 × General Electric J47-GE-33 turbojet with afterburner
Thrust 5,425 lbf (24.1 kN) dry / 7,500 lbf (33.4 kN) with afterburner
Maximum Speed Approx. 692 mph (1,114 km/h) at sea level
Range 800 mi (1,287 km) combat radius
Service Ceiling 49,750 ft (15,160 m)
Rate of Climb 12,000 ft/min (3,660 m/min)
Length 40 ft 4 in (12.29 m)
Wingspan 39 ft 1 in (11.91 m) with F-40 extended slatted wings
Height 15 ft 0 in (4.57 m)
Wing Area 313.37 sq ft (29.11 m²)
Empty Weight Approx. 13,000 lb (5,897 kg)
Loaded Weight 16,292 lb (7,390 kg)
Max Takeoff Weight 19,975 lb (9,061 kg)
Armament 24 × 2.75 in (70 mm) FFAR “Mighty Mouse” rockets in retractable tray
2 × AIM-9B Sidewinder air-to-air missiles (underwing)
Avionics Hughes E-4 fire control system, AN/ARR-39 SAGE datalink receiver, AN/APX-25 IFF, AN/ARN-31 glide slope receiver
Notable Features Extended slatted wing (F-40), drag chute, SAGE-compatible interception guidance system

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The F-86L has a Fire Control Radar to tell you when to shoot the FFAR rockets

IN-GAME

Similar to the F-86K found in the German Tech Tree, I propose this to be at a 9.0 - 9.3 BR but as discussed earlier, it will not have guns but instead have air-to-air rockets as its primary armament instead.

This would be a good alternative to the Japanese F-86D that is yet to be added, and compared to that - this has significantly better value for the game mechanics of War Thunder since it has AIM-9Bs to rely on after you expend the 24 rockets you have. Keep in mind the rockets have an FCS system so you can try to be accurate with them.

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The JASDF F-86D does not have AIM-9Bs

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SOURCES

Special Thanks to @Disco_Shrimp for his excellently written F-86L ‘Sabre Dog’ proposal for the American Tech Tree and to @MapleVII-live for his similare F-86D proposal for the Chinese Tech Tree - please do check them out!


Curtis, D. (2003). North American Sabre Dog, pt. 2 – USAF F-86D, L (Air Force Legends 207). Ginter Books.

U.S. Air Force. (1961, July). T.O. 1F-86L-1 Flight Handbook: USAF Series F‑86L aircraft [PDF]. DocDroid. North American F-86L Flight Handbook.pdf | DocDroid

Allward, Maurice. F-86 Sabre. London: Ian Allan, 1978. ISBN 0-7110-0860-4.

http://www.wings-aviation.ch/11-RTAF/2-Aircraft/NorthAmerican-F-86/Sabre.html

https://www.scramble.nl/planning/orbats/thailand/royal-thai-air-force-history

https://www.airvectors.net/avf86_2.html

Special Hobby 1/72 F-86L Sabre, previewed by Scott Van Aken.

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+1 will be weird to play, but anyway

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+1

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Sabre dogs in wt are quite heavy and sluggish, this one doesnt even have very effective weapons (only 2 9bs) so in that case -1

I love weird armaments like this, and this is one plane I’ve wanted for a long time! +1

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+1

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+1 and I want to respond to this:

Assuming you’re referring to the Air RB BR, I’m curious why you think it should be placed at 9.3 when all other nations’ F-86Ks sit at 9.0. Without guns, this aircraft will have a significantly worse gameplay performance compared to its F-86K counterparts. Heck, the limited FFAR ammo will not help it.

I think keeping it at 9.0 would be reasonable, but in my opinion, 8.7 might be a better fit. Again, it’s up to Gaijin’s decision to implement it and let the BR changes decide the suitable BR for it.

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+1 but this is far too high. 9Bs at this BR are pretty trivial to dodge, and the same missiles are available much lower with the late Sea Hawks and Cougar.

+1. I have never tried F-86Ks, but I don’t know how well this thing might be. No guns is sadge and it gets less + worse guided AAMs than Sea Vixen F.A.W. Mk.2, so it is not 9.0 material for sure. The problem is: comapring it to F-89D, F-86L sounds even weaker armament-wise as it gets only 24 rockets (instead of 104, even though they are double-launched) and those AIM-9Bs are useless against props, unless they stall or fly too slow. However, it can also outrun any plane at BRs below 8.0, so it will be F-104 situation at early jets ranks.

I find it to be best suited for 8.7.

Too fast for it at 8.3 to face 7.3; Too bad for it at 9.0 to have to face 10.0.

I dont see any scenario see it at 8.0.