Terminator should be at 11.7

ok have a nice day

you know whats funny this things being 10.3 and the namers are 11.3 with no armor at all, the spikes are a mess and the cannon is ass and btw no proxy round XD

100% they should go to 9.7; 10.0 is too high.

What’s wrong with the armor? They’re going to fix the TT armor anyway. That thing can tank APFSDS even from the side.

it cant shoot both guns at same time irl .

10.7 max; beyond that, it’s going to be pretty useless.

Neither do you. Hell I doubt a single nation main that isn’t even efficient with said nation can even comprehend the concept of balance.

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The sides ( like you have stated), but also the hatches ( they are currently 550mm thick).

From what I’m seeing it can – just that the guns vibrate and become pretty inaccurate as a result.

With more than double the firerate and access to APFSDS? I think it would be better than the Namer 30, which is at 11.3 .

What merits do the other heavy IFVs have compared to the terminator? For example it just looks way better than the QN506 at 10.0.

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Other non-Soviet IFVs have no advantages over the Terminator.

I just feel sorry for those people who bought the Wolfpack or other IFVs at these BRs.

when it uses a higher fire rate, after all, the gun was made to smoke infantry.(Maybe the Russians didn’t figure out how to build a dual‑feed gun.)

Yeah, but it only has 5 degrees of depression and poor mobility, and the ATAKA aren’t that great either.Nemars are impossible to kill when hull down, and I know Spikes are not great, but they are F&F.

Compared to TOW-2A or B, this is the best missile for this ballistic missile class.

I thought we were done talking. The TOW‑2B is a top‑attack missile so it’s in a different class, and the TOW‑2A and Atakas have similar pen anyway. And honestly, the Bradley shouldn’t be at 10.0.

You can still kill a BMPT with the Wolfpack without any problem.

Kornet is the best missile in that class (in the game).

5 degrees of gun depression is much worse than 20 to be fair. The mobility of the Namer is also better (as it is based on the Merkava Mk.3 IIRC), but the hull armour is generally worse, and (like you said) the Spikes are pretty useless unless you fire them against unaware SPAAs and light tanks… or helicopters.

The beam-riding ATAKAs are arguably more useful, and the much much better firerate would make it extremely good on side-aspect flanks.

The Namer can be killed with ATGMs and HE, though.

Hence why I think they’d be just as good as each other ( if the Namer gets an ammo box).

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M1128s will likely still be fine. Rule number 1 of these vehicles is to not get seen anyway, rule number 2 is to not get shot.

So if you are getting shot at in an M1128 by a BMPT something already went wrong.

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Why would you even fight ANY autocannons with ADATS?

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Namers are paying that minor nation tax you know

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just wait for it to go to battle first! it would probably deserve that rating for a reason … just wait for a bit to see then ask for an upteir

bro that thing can EASILY KILL ME from my front (in my T80 U E1/ T80UD)

no

I dont. Weakspots on Terminator are no different to your regular T-series except for much larger and easier to hit ready/ammo rack in form of the belt going thru the turret. Shooting the lfp or driver’s port are still the easiest ways to eliminate the tank.