No but the BMP-2M has darts and actually good mobility.
And as the T-90M has continued to show for the last 2 years at top tier: mobility & firepower >>>>> armor alone.
EDIT: I do agree though that it should at least move to 10.7, maybe 11.0 if a decent enough case can be made. I just think 11.7 is wild.
i 100% agree that the BMT 72 for 11.7! first though give it APFSDS, light abilities (scout UAV ect). even then it’s tall and REALLY REALLY REALLY bad in reverse, 4 ATGMs … so all in all prob still 11.3 or sm WITH THAT
nope it will stay at 10.3
wdym?
its 10.3. no matter what you will say. it will always be 10.3
Not true, otherwise BR changes wouldn’t happen to any vehicle every once in a while.
Ah true, its a TD for some reason, isnt it?
its true, with the thing its got now, it cant fight against 11.3 or 12.0.
a reminder that the 2 terminator BMPT that we got in the game are prototype / export
the bmpt-72 was only a export show, while the bmpt that we got was based on t-90A frame and limited to apds and atacka missile.
the version we will have at top tier will the one with the whole package upgrade, apfsds/era side kit/T-90m base/ T-90m armor/modern and better atgms/gen 3 thermal/powerfull grenade launchers.
Well if it’s performing too well according to the statistics it’ll move up to 10.7 no matter what you, me or anyone thinks about the change. It has always been that simple with Gaijin.
Although I doubt that especially the premium version will move up anytime soon, seeing how the average high tier premium vehicle performs in this game.
all we can do is wait and see what gaijin will do
nah it WILL go up … at some point, it may get buffs, too many complaints, ect, ect
As I stated previously, nearly all players who’ve used Ground Launched F&F ATGM agree that they are treated poorly. Not only do they come in limited supply among tanks like the Namer, which only gets 4 in total, but you may not even get a kill with all four of them fired. They’re inaccurate and not guaranteed to kill on impact. You can’t even use them under 600 meters, either, and smoke completely scrambles them.
Once you’ve fired all 4 spikes on the Namer, you become a slightly more armored CV9035 unless you sit on a cap.
yea i agree the missiles arent like in real life
the terminator too
yea gaijin hasnt model corect the FnF missiles
if it is not a mbt its a kill
i thougth they were better in longer distances
yea all missiles if you cant see the target you miss not just the FnF only the khrizentema can do this
terminator too but with only apds
The Terminator gets an Ammobox.
Not if it misses completely, which they will. And if you’re paying attention, you can just pop smoke.
The Terminator’s missiles aren’t given a minimum range. You can use them in self-defence. The Namer Tsrikhon has a minimum missile distance of 600 meters due to its position.
Sure, but you can manually guide other ATGM’s through smoke if you’re good enough. Spikes will always miss if you smoke and move slightly at a good time.
The Terminator has an ammobox. It has two reloads of everything.
I’m not opposed to it at 10.7, however I am more interested in getting the Namer taken down to 11.0 or 10.7, because it is functionally worse than the PUMA/KF41 and Jaguar while sitting at a higher BR.
And for those who wish to pull the whole ‘it fits the 11.3 lineup’, that’a cool and all, but I can simply bring it up from 10.7, won’t suddenly perform any worse because it’s at a reasonable br
Yeah I agree, the Namers should move back to 11.0.
I agree about the Puma and Jaguar, however I disagree that the Namers are worse thsn the KF41.
Tsirkhon is equivalent, RCWS-30 worse imo
I’d personally take the much much better survivability of the Namer 30 over anything the KF41 has to offer, which isn’t much.
Crewed turret with barely any protection just kills the KF41, but that is a whole different topic.
remove the ammobox? i dont know but 11.7 or 11.3 is crazy 10.7 is logical and the isreali ones even if they move down in like 11.0 evryone will use them with the 11.3 merkavas i belive or at least thats what i will do when i go there
Yeah israel has literally no 11.0 lineup and 0 tanks 10.7 that u could take to 11.0