Team mates are just blue guy in red

Just wrong

Not reliable pens though

0.7 BR diffrence, by that logic the Leopard can be penned everywhere when we look at the PL or 2a4m

Again can’t really pen the turret much, aka hull down

Not the top tier tank of russia, by that logic lets look at the armor of the 2a4m and not the 2a7

not exactly, i usually destroy china like this with my Challenger.

well mostly reliable. Unpens with Leo there are unusual

was 0.3 for about what, three years?

Yes, they are exactly glass cannons)

idk, maybe it cant now, but back in the day it wasnt a problem.

again, it became one just recently

glass cannon, no doubt.

As USSR can easily pen anything from 9.3 to 10.3, the Germans are superior in that with their 2a6 and 2a7 at 12.0 (but decompression did a good job to make some of the machinery separated tho)

And? now it’s not. by that logic lets compare the mbt2000 to 10.7 tanks and even better, the pgz09 to 8.0-7.7 spaas

you are the biggest germany fan boy i have ever met. the only good thing about the Leos is DM53, it stops there, weak armor, weak optics, worse mobility then most of top tier, longer reaload then anything then t-72 loaders and when no loader the worst in the game

tho it was 10.7 for like two months? And the leo was several years with abrams.
I mean, now its okay - 2a6 has 12.7, 1a1hc has 12.0, meaning they arent exactly equal. Thats what i like about new brs.

Im not, im their most hater. I dont appreciate the OPness of their techs r*ping my challengers and 72s

Not exactly? especially after 2a7

uuuuugh can you tell what`s weak about it?

not most, just cant outrun fastest ones

the only thing that makes me feel good is that they keep their reload untoched and the T-80s get and T–90 get buffs this update

exactly. They should nerf it even more just to justify its strenghts.

it was 11.0 for a long time

Well you said the chinese ufp was bad, the leos are even worse

Worse then chinese, french, japanese, russians (no reverse though)

the .1 second for the t90 lmao

tho it was 10.0 at start (i bought one from tech tree to accompany my premium 96a(p), so not exactly the point to make)

Chinese is bad as its small. 2a7 ones are much and much bigger

Im sorry, english is my second language so i struggle to understand. Do you mean that 2a6-2a7 moves LESS fast than chinese, french, jap and USSR? I mean i can argue with chinese, but it sure does fly faster than t-90s and t-72s (t-80s are faster tho) and i didnt really notice the Leclerc being much faster, but that can just be me. Japs and T-80s really do outrun it. But challys? Arietters? Merkavas? T-72s?
Even abramses with additional armor.

xD but an entire .4 for 80s!

just worse mobility, top speed is not all

But it can’t get penned, the only part on the 2a7 that can’t get penned is the vary low part of it.

Don’t worry it’s my second too

i meant mobility, yes

2a7 has good protection tho
that`s hard or unable to pen in places that result in damage. And most places are unreliable asf. Especially from some weaker rounds

At work atm, ill get back to that once home

Okie :3
I like the conversation

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I remade the thing you just made
Green = more or less safe shot
Pink = risky shot but you can take it if u have no better option
red = don’t shoot there never

Edit: the purple box on the middle of the left turret cheek should only go to around the middle horizontally, imagine it starts at the breach and ends at the middle

This entire part of the lower plate can be penned btw

Did you just notice that now? its been like 12 years, its always been like that XD.