It’s more to do with skilled players overall.
F-16C, F-15C have been top of the leaderboards at least as often as F-15E.
Win rates are a matter of team skill, which you should know.
Pansir has the range but really bad g over load compared to others, and no 800mm pen aams like the Adats. So it has its trade offs
Just thought I would share this funi
https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/1h1f78h/why_is_there_bvm_in_air_combat/
I wonder if theres SOMETHING TO IT lmao.
Do you need 800mm pen for aircraft?
ADATS is a mid SAM and a mid AT vehicle.
Pantsir is the Best SAM
idk why but I didn’t think it would be this bad
Well, considering it cannot counter planes as well, but helis very nicely I’d say it’s decent.
And if killing any ground target with ease is just mid to you, let’s remove that ability shall we?
I think it’s the only anti tank launcher that can fire 8 aams before reloading.
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It can, its also huge, bulky, slow has poor optics is a massive vertical silhouette.
The Only time an ADATS gets ground kills is when it is being spawncamped.
the more important aspect of the SAM is it’s ability to destroy aircraft, ADATS fails in this with 8km range missiles. Remind me whats Pantsirs range?
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Just grind the air tree bro trust. Solves all the problems trust.
found this screen shot from a Chinese player
good God…
I guess that SU34&KH38 vs SPAA meme is now real lol
*edit, seems like it has been posted
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Hu?
Since when does spawning in my fully spaded sea harrier FA2, tornado F3 late or Gripen c equal the same SP cost as either the ADATS or Stormer?
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I was just being ironic, there is no real SPAA counter against the Su-34, and that includes the Pantsir S1. Although playing CAP can be useful, you’re pretty constricted to that role, and even more constricted if there is an Enemy Pantsir S1
Might be time for sky saber.
I’d at least like some level of threat flying CAS with Russian toptier.
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Yeah, I think it is, if they can figure out a good way to provide external radar. Then I think the logical step is to move all SPAAs forward a notable jump, because there simply isnt options for incremental leaps anymore
Could also enable ARMs on the slower strike platforms, for testing their addition.
Yup, neither CAS nor SPAA can move forward at the moment.
I mean, CAS can. Probably shouldn’t, but if we’re getting Rafale then I am entirely expecting AASM to come (probably a few variants), and that’s cruel even used on a pantsir. Shouldn’t doesn’t really stop Gaijin.
Good I’m so sick of fighting anything that had an f-16 / f-15 that could nuke me from space and my pansir with a lock would magically miss
lol
oh b.t.w this was in a game i was having as i was scrolling this page l o l
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I unlocked my first top-tier jet of my second completer air tree, and I’m not impressed…
The things a brick; which is accurate to the airframe, but it feels lacking in the power department, maybe I haven’t taken the time to learn how to restrict it yet. But it’s not well performing where it is. I currently have a .5 KDR and it’s not making me happy with the plane.
It’s missing its HMS which has been the number one reason of me dying. Its pilots historically operate the HMS, and it really ruins the gameplay not being able to queue up IR missiles on incoming targets has lead to way too many deaths.
I understand at release this plane was 13.3, then bumped to 13.7 because all comparable aircraft were actually a close equivalent. But now the F-15C Golden Eagle, EF-2k, and Rafael bully everything. It needs to go back to 13.3 now that the higher BR doesn’t hold it’s equivalent.
Also, it may be a skill issue, but if you have something to say about me being a bad top tier player, Give me actual help and explanation instead of just saying ‘skill issue’
hey sorry for the late response but here i am
i am gonna give you multiple video of why type of playing style/tips for the su34.
- first game is easy, basic su34 game play, best for faster grind. take note its a down tier.
also you need this button to auto switch to a base without going in the maps.
- these match are more like trying bvr, the speed of su34 is great but you need to take note that if you do bvr, you can only launch 4 fox 3 as your radar can only provide 4 data links.
- just adding this clip as its show better about the r27er bvr.
