Take the Tiger II (P) back to 6.3

If you’re carrying on the comparison with the M26, the answer is no. Panthers have roughly in the region of 40mm of side armour, almost half the M26’s. That’s why angling can so easily lead to overmatch.

The gun is great at long range. At short range, the extra flat pen rarely matters. The UFP is great against rushed or poorly aimed center mass shots. When brawling, anyone who knows what they’re doing will never bother to try and shoot it, they’ll go for the turret, or the gun, knowing that you don’t have the mobility to get away.

Mobility is subpar. Lack of workable reverse gear means you can’t easily relocate (encouraging you to stay at range). Slow turret traverse means you can’t easily react up close (encouraging you to stay at range). Acceleration is also sluggish as well.

I am talking about 5.0-6.0 mediums. On those br range T-34 have reverse. Shermans, Panthers, britains together have “no step back transmission”

The Sla is great (I haven’t used the H in ages, but I’ve seen friends of mine drop enough nukes in them to know that they’re also very good.

The Tiger II P is just… Redundant.

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To good aim you must know right distance but you have no time because Panthers no need to aim at your weakspots and it can just shoot without big distance adjustments

Doesn’t mean it isn’t comparable

“Aim for the turret” is hardly unique to Panthers as an armour layout trait around this BR.

As for the Panther not needing to aim… Against a Sherman or a T-34-85, maybe, which is not because the Panther’s gun is exceptional, but because the hulls in question are very vulnerable. Go play German 6.0 without knowing weakspots and just shooting everything you meet in the UFP, let me know how it goes.

No, only the heavies. Also wasn’t justified or required or a good idea.

Only Panthers.

Only a few like M26/T26, also didn’t make sense

Wasn’t balanced

There are more 7.0s in the game than there are tanks that got moved in the BR changes at 5.7-6.7

Incorrect.

Tiger E as well.

What tanks can it not penetrate frontally with its round

I can’t believe ppl believe this about something as meta and useful as the jPanther…

If it heavy anyone must aim its normal, but medium tank killing Heavy tank in both ufp weakspot and in turret and lfp from big distance when heavy must aim weakspots isn’t normal.

The point is you are using your personal biases (read: preferences) to judge these vehicles.

I agree but that isn’t happening.

No, he was talking about the Tiger II, and said that the Jagdpanther is much better.

Depends what you mean exactly, because technically, it can penetrate IS-3 and IS-4M from the front as well, it just requires very precise aiming.

Similar to those I would put T95, Object 268, Ho-Ri Production, T32, T32E1 and M103 as opponents that require good aim and knowledge of weakspots.

I provided arguments, though. If you think I’m wrong and I’m missing something that makes the Panther amazing in CQC, I’d like to hear it. I don’t mean that sarcastically, I joined the forum precisely because it’s a learning opportunity.

Since from the description you’re talking about the IS-2, no, the IS-2 does not need to aim for weakspots to take out a Panther. It’s literally the Panther counter for a reason.

“From a distance” is exactly where the Panther shines, that’s sort of the point.

Is-1 it’s now only 0.3 lower than panther.

It’s not hard, it has a bullshit damage model regarding volumetric heavily buffing its old weakspots, its very fast, the gun is a point and clicker, etc. The only real downsides are bad side armor and no reverse which is pretty easy to work around when your frontal profile is insane

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Just look at new one point Alaska, flanks was cut over. No way for flanker vehicles.

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The old maps allowed you to drive as wide as you wanted and were great.Sometimes going so wide and driving for so long backfired and sometimes it worked ,it was a gamble and a decision for the player.

Now there is no option and many vehicles have become redundant.
Why would Gaijin do this?

If by “flanking” you mean “driving 1 mile around the obj to spawn snipe about 2 minutes in” then yeah they removed that

i was more like to arrive at city from side.

And you call yourself Balanced Game lol

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