isnt that the same for the t90A ?
or even as the m900 at 10.3 ?
i mean you got m1128 getting into 9.3 matches with m900 or 2s25m with 3bm60 into 9.0 matches
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It is annoying because you can’t aim or it is annoying because you have a distaste for russia ?
This is a T-72 we talking about. Not a BMPT
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Yeah the thing is 2S25M is dogshit and M1118 is decent but still extremely to kill cause Light tank are hard to play and no one play them. Except the M1118 premium version.
The thing that should be brought up is other undertier premium ground like T58/Turm or CV90105 which is still one of the best premium you can buy. Especially after the BMPT got moved up to 11.3. The moment that thing move to the next BR outside of the CV90105 br range it back to being OP
2S25m can be 50. cal while m1128 is faster and can hide with it no man turret while having decent armor.
and the reason people are having hard time to play them is because of gaijin thinking that smaller maps are great.
thats the stupid reason why such vehicules are performing well such as bmd4 and bmpt. urban warfare are their strong card and gaijin are giving them easy time. but light tank such as 2s25m and m1128 need long range to performe well.
also wanna add that usa low tier plane premium are pure double standard and bais, take exemple xp50 amd the new hybrid jet/prop at such low br.
If decent armor mean extremely bad shot then I got bad new for you and no , 2S25M being dogwater does not mean M1128 downside are not a downside. On paper anything can look great
Yeah gaijin can’t make map but what make you think making better bigger map would push people to actually contribute something beside sitting at the back and snipe ?
This thread do be getting people from both side jump in just to bm otherside. You gotta love it
The T-72B3 Arena will just be a sidegrade to the T-90A, APS and better gun handling traded off for a decent chunk of armour, engine power and ERA whilst retaining the 3BM60. I don’t see why it should go anything above 11.0, 11.3 if we’re pushing it.
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You had T-90A in the game for years now.
Yeah, it isn’t performing great.
why is it always people like you wanting russian tanks at higher brs? saying this thing has “better gun handling than a T90A” is like saying its got more armor than a bob semple cos still sucks compared to most things at its br. actually laughable to even suggest this should be 11.7, same br as a m1a1
Next bmpt?
Clearly,you are not clever since you looked dirextly into the stats.I am not claiming i am a great player but when i look to the stats,i dont seem okey having active hard kill APS at such a low br.Every vehicle has advantages and disadvantages.This vehicle has disadvantages and advantages than T90A.It has the same armor layout for ERA.It has same gun but worse mobility.APS and targeting speed is much better than T90A.but i am not directly 11.7.i am saying 11.3.Mobility exchange of APS and targeting is not logical in fair standing point.Probably, they are going to fix it but if we call them out before,it would be much better.Look to the BR range.It is in shambles because of BMPT.BR change did not fix anything
Even worse.
Man, instead of complaining about Russian technology, learn how to play and take a sober look at the situation. Try playing with Soviet tanks before you make any claims. If anything, the BM60 is available on the T90A and 2S25M.
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It really shouldn’t be 11.0 mate.
11.0 is the only BR where it’s not instantly beyond DOA.
Hardly? it’s got the same mobility as the 11.3 one, same round, same armour configuration minus the newest form of ERA, then it also has the arena Active protection system, it shares the same fantastic gun laying speeds and turret traverse as the T72B3 as well.
The fact it sits at the same BR as the T90A which is objectively worse is weird.
The T72B3 Arena should be 11.3 at least.
???
The spaded B3 has 1130 HP while the Arena has max 840 HP.
Apologies aye, slightly worse mobility overall, but it is lighter too without the additional ERA package. Think it’s still about 19 HP/PT on the arena or so.
So it’s a tradeoff of slightly worse mobility, the thing has a 360 coverage with it’s APS and it’s a pretty decent APS to be fair as well.
Most other nations don’t get a good APS like that until the 12.0 areas (no it shouldn’t be anywhere near 12.0)
It’s 0.5 ton lighter while you lose almost 25% of your engine power, that is not a favorable tradeoff at all.
The T-72B3 has 24 HP/ton while the B3 arena has 18.1 HP/ton.
Here is the acceleration difference as well:
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Alright, again it’s still an 11.3 tank? xD it’s a sidegrade to the current T72B3.
Didn’t know it was quite as dramtic the HP/PT.
Irregardless of that , it’s still better than the T90A; it has better turret traverse, gun laying speeds as well as the same ERA, should be the same composite array as well as the Arena APS.
Why is it at 11.0 the same BR as worse vehicles?
Also doesn’t the ERA package for the B3 add a ton ?
Its more of a 10.7 than an 11.3. Its fine at 11.0. There is no BR where this thing will be good because the lack of mobility is just a factor that can’t be solved.